Which of the following team black statements do you find the most ridiculous/despicable?

These are all a bunch of straw man statements that I've never heard from actual Black Stans, but Greens attributing to the other side.

  1. Alicent wasn't raped. This is not because she was married to Viserys. It's because she consented to sex with Viserys and was neither forced nor coerced not lacked capacity. She went to his room under her own power. That it was out of a sense of duty, rather than desire; the fact that the sex was unpleasant doesn't negate the agreement to engage in it. Bad sex is not rape. There's plenty depictions of rape in this setting and plenty depictions of women refusing sex within marriage and without. Aemma tells Viserys she will have no more children with him. Rhea Rhoyce refused to have sex with Daemon. Cersei and Rhaenys were both recognised in-universe as having been raped by their respective husbands. Whether such incidents result in punishment varies but its well established that most Westerosi consider marital rape as abuse and a moral failure. However tragic and sympathetic Alicent's situation, however sad and unmodern her motivation to agree to sex with Viserys, agreement is the antithesis to rape. Further, Alicent's marriage is not unique in any way. It's not even unique to women in this setting. Every person's marriage is arranged for duty to their dynasty by their father/liege. Alicent, Rhaenyra, Rhaenys, Daemon, Aemond, Jaecerys, Lucernus, Rhaena, Baela and every highborn lord or lady as far as the eye can see married out of duty to their family. Heck, this framework for marriage is still how majority are fixed in 2023 on Earth, other than the Western Hemisphere.

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