Hey kid, stop twisting and jumping through hoops no one has put up. Internet point don’t mean shit to most people, so go ahead and keep downvoting all you want. I’ve already explained 3 times why optimal correct play don’t mean shit when you’re playing in an uncoordinated environment. If you think that 99% of the player base, specially the support player base, won’t flat out grief, from stupid nonsense like taking a single ward kill, I would like to live in your dream world for at least a day. If you fail to understand I wasn’t equating those to situations, but merely stating an example that might be easier to understand from a jungler’s perspective then what am I doing even have an internet argument with someone lacking basic reading and comprehension skills? So thanks for making it clear. I couldn’t deduce earlier if you were 12 or just dumb.