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Your first paragraph is dubious. When we say 'nationalistic' what exactly do we mean? There are generally two sets of nationalisms; nationalism which wishes for recognition of a national identity, independence from imperialism and neo-colonialism and nationalism which attempt to destroy all difference to create a homogenous and mythologised unitary polity. I have not seen evidence of North Korea specifically targeting certain groups to destroy difference and create a mythologised society - but I have seen evidence of their nationalism being used as a tool to gain independence of colonial and imperial powers. Mohandas Gandhi was a 'nationalist' but so was Benito Mussolini - it is important that we define our terms to draw a distinction between them.

Your correct in saying that North Korea is autocratic, authoritarian and militaristic, but things are more dubious when we look at your claims of nationalism and xenophobia. The Soviet Union was militaristic but was certainly not fascist. There have been autocratic socialist nations too.

Tell me, have you read anything about Juche that was actually written by Kim-il-Sung? First of all it is not an ideology that is xenophobic, but it is militaristic - in that it holds self-defence in a high regard but that is no surprise considering Korea's material conditions and how many times it has been invaded throughout history. Kim-il-Sung wasn't going around telling people to be afraid of foreigners or to be extremely suspicious of them, but when you consider how much strain the DPRK has been put under by foreign powers, surely you would feel somewhat suspicious and perhaps even afraid too?

I too disagree with shoving propaganda into young people. I take issue with your point that economic decisions are taken away from individuals though. Have you heard of the Taean work system? It's outlined here:

''The highest managerial authority under the Taean system is the party committee. Each committee consists of approximately twenty-five to thirty-five members elected from the ranks of managers, workers, engineers, and the leadership of working people's organizations at the factory. A smaller "executive committee," about one-fourth the size of the regular committee, has practical responsibility for day-to-day plant operations and major factory decisions. The most important staff members, including the party committee secretary, factory manager, and chief engineer, make up its membership. The system focuses on cooperation among workers, technicians, and party functionaries at the factory level.''

Sounds like a pretty good amount of economic control, at least compared to capitalist nations.

Of course there are authoritarian restrictions on liberty, and that is a shame. But when we look at North Korea's conditions, we must realise that it is a state that has always been under attack and has taken desperate measures to try and ensure its survival.

North Korea is socialistic, at least economically. It also has a system of social services that includes universal health coverage and education, as well as free housing. This record is remarkable for a country of North Korea’s limited resources.

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