February Discussion Thread

How can a heuristic be made more effective, implemented? I understand that wide scale tweaking of the socio economic system might bring with it massive increases in resources efficiency, people will suddenly be more inclined to use far less and create the infrastructures to manage it spontaneously through a natural self assembly built upward from orders of necessity. But how can a multi order re orientation of value and utility be pointed at? in a way that grips at peoples fear motivation, trumps the impulse to promise your children a life at least as good as your own. Any analysis of the 'good' life is so easily banished by tangible historic norms of wealth based value production.

capitalism is good because it creates wealth but bad because its ultimately forgetful of itself.

But, wealth isn't really what we want, its value. How do we manufacture not more, but better. It opens up debate on what 'better' looks like but I guess that's why a focus on real science and democracy is important. Dialectical materialism needs to explain in easy speak, grip the nations heartstrings terms, how value will emerge (with examples) from the radical re arrangement of its parts.

Are exactly these kinds of changes more likely to come from the announcement and government endorsement of, a solar economy, thanks to massive innovations by the likes of Tesla. Rebate systems and subsidies for this tech, combined with things like guaranteed minimum income would inevitably readjust our relationship with the material and thus the planet.

Maybe the development of certain technologies are essentially, 'the forbidden fruit' for destructive forms of capitalism, their onset will be its remaking. Will capitalism denature itself by biting its own tail? by consuming the first viable eternal producer?

If its true that Rojavo sprang up because of a historical readiness and an environment free of pre existing infrastructure, then something similar, in my opinion, could only come for the west in either two ways; an inability to restructure in the face of apx. 50 years of cheap oil, will cause resource scarcity and economic downgrading forcing people to recognize the utility of highly personally efficient communalist lifestyles and modes of production. Second, a similarly fertile ecological flat ground could come from a solar economy providing essentially free energy, great social services and minimum guaranteed income. It would likely spur the same effects, with basic needs met people naturally focus on community and efficiency of life and resources, the space for a dialectical naturalism emerges.

I don't see Capitalism and Socialism as mutually exclusive, they most co-exist for at least some time until they produce viable offspring.

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