When I talk about how far the Navy has fallen, I am not talking of international rankings of guns, I am talking of observing the competance and work ethic of ex Navy personell I manage, of watching Navy ships fuck up coming alongside on a regular basis, where we are sat watching and then I get shit in a multinational crew for being British.

I can only talk really of mostly Marine Engineering, and to a lesser extent the seaman side, but there was a time that Royal Navy would get you good jobs after in the maritime community, Id chuck a CV in the bin today if I saw RN until recently, its not the guys fault, it is the way the RN are managing marine engineering, but we dont want them anymore.