I will also add on to this anti-electric vehicle circle jerk and add, I also see them as coal cars, with worse 'mining waste' in the production phase of batteries. And I also feel that coal pollution is worse than gas pollution in that coal pollution is more obvious to humans, it turns the air brown and blots out the sun like in China where people burn coal to heat their homes. So why tf are people trying to go towards coal burning cars?? People are dumb af and easily manipulated.

That said, I want an offroad 4x4 electric (toy) vehicle. The massive battery making a ultra low center of gravity and torgue on demand, is pretty fucking neat and those tesla suv's just dont roll or tip or flip and beat out all other suv's/trucks.