Anyone else hate Beatport?

I FUCKING SAID IT, ME! THAT'S MY ARGUMENT, YOU CAN GOTO ANY CITY AND FIND TECHNO AND HOUSE. IT'S THAT BIG OF A MOVEMENT. YOU CAN'T SAY THAT ABOUT ELECTRO. And at what point did I disagree with that. That was never what I or regissss queried you on. Not from my first reply to my last. It was the singular statement of Electro being dead. I disagree with your opinion that it's dead. I think the justifications you've given for it being dead are faulty and that's all I've tried to convey. Not that Electro is thriving, not that it's "bigger than it is", not that it's bigger than house or techno. I've never claimed or queried you on these. These were tangentiall statements you've made to somehow prove your position on my query, of why do you think Electro is dead.

LET ME FIX IT FOR YOU! ELECTRO IS CURRENTLY DEAD IN 95% OF THE WORLD AND THRIVING IN A SMALL 5% OF LOCAL SCENES! DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND GLOBAL SCALE VS SMALL LOCAL TRENDS? IF ONLY YOU WOULD LOOK AT THE MASSIVE DISCREPANCY IN THE BEATPORT NUMBERS I SHARED, YOU WOULD COME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION I DID EONS AGO. What are you basing those numbers on. Did you read them in tea leaves? Its baseless and before you say it, It is wrong to isolate just beatport numbers and declare something dead. You even agree with me on that, saying that all metrics matter, of which you've given 1 digital stores release count.

AND IF YOU DIDN'T FIGURE IT OUT, THE TOPIC OF PHYSICAL LOCATION CAME UP AS I RESPONDING TO YOUR NEAT FABRIC STORY "BRAH" AFTER I POSTED THE NUMBERS. No you brought up physical location when you used it as one of your metrics "I can't goto my local afterhours, like I can with techno and house music, and listen to electro", but let's drop that.

THE POINT IS DNB AT THAT TIME WHEN THESE SETS WERE RECORED WAS STRUGGLING GLOBALLY BUT STILL HAD SMALL POCKETS OF ACTIVITY. IT WAS STILL CONSIDERED A DYING GENRE AT THE TIME. JUST BECAUSE ONE NIGHTCLUB CAN SUCCESSFULLY PULL OFF AN EVENT IS NOT AN INDICATION OF ANYTHING. Neither is one digital stores data points. Again you agree with me on this by saying all metrics matter, so let's let this part go.

THE POINT IS ALL THE METRICS MATTER, NOT JUST ONE. USING ONLY ONE METRIC WILL BE BIAS AND DOES NOT GIVE THE WHOLE PICTURE. YOU THINK IT'S NOT ALL CONNECTED? EITHER WAY YOU LOOK AT, ALL THE DATA WORKS IN MY FAVOR IN THE END. Again you agree that all metrics matter so how can you make these sweeping statements about it being dead globally using one digital stores release count? What other data are you using? You've used the example of Techno, Electro-House and Electro from Beatport. I've used the example of Discogs. Both of which showed Electro in two very different lights.

THE LIMITED FAN BASE IS THE FACT THAT K-POP MOSTLY ONLY FOLLOWED BY ASAIN PEOPLE. HALF THE SONGS AREN'T EVEN IN ENGLISH. ELECTRONIC MUSIC HAS NO BARRIERS, BLACK WHITE ASIAN MIDDLE EASTERN, IT DOESN'T MATTER. LIMITED FAN BASE DOES NOT EQUAL TO ASIANS DO NOT LIVE ALL OVER THE WORLD, CAN YOU PLEASE ELABORATE HOW ON EARTH YOU WOULD EVEN COME TO THAT CONCLUSION? I think we can let this tangent go, it just gets into whether or not you think language is a barrier for music.

DOESN'T MATTER IF I RE-READ IT OR NOT, YOU HAVE NO POINT TO ARGUE. Yes it does because I made the argument you just made about metrics, that they all matter. I said it's wrong to isolate just beatport numbers and declare something dead. Which you are in agreement with right? Because all metrics matter.

WHEREEVER YOU PULL THE NUMBERS FROM ELECTRO WILL NEVER TRUMP HOUSE OR TECHNO BABY. 40 YEARS AND STILL GOING STRONGER THAN EVER BUDDY. WHAT CAN YOU POSSIBLY SAY TO THAT? I've never said it would and I've never disagreed with you on that. My disagreement stemmed from nothing other than you're statement of electro being long dead and how you justified that position. That's all I queried you about in my first post. I fucking love house mate. I'm delighted it's going so strong. Techno I can take or leave, never been a fan of the booming kicks.

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