I don't believe the "new ira" is responsible for the strabane fiasco. It reeks of uvf.

I'm going to try my best to attempt as much intelligent discourse from your response as possible. I don't pertain to be right and I am willing to be wrong. This just doesn't add up.

This is an opinion. My take on it. On reddit. I grew up with savages. You don't scare me. Are you suggesting you might bomb me out of my home because I expressed a theory you don't agree with? The UVF terrorise their own community. Whilst I don't believe they have branched back out to sectarian conflict through anything else other than belly aching, ballswinging and the odd diddy on a flute, revenge or retribution on the PSNI has been a public campaign for a while now. Again, this is an opinion formed on the evidence available to me. If I'm wrong, I'll gladly be corrected.

Homemade explosives to the IRA is like a victoria sponge made by Mary Berry. Honed and perfected over time; it has claimed worldwide acclamation. They shared those skills with hamas and contributed to the horrific devastation and slaughter of paramilitary efforts in so many parts of the world and continue to do so. Whilst I am a supporter of a united Ireland, I am in no ways a supporter of the terrorism utilised on either side to forward the cause. I've seen enough blood shed, lives lost and futures shattered in my own short lifetime and have enough experience of the absolute depravity on both sides to condemn the extra circulars of both sides.

I will take your statement, not as a threat, but give you the benefit of the doubt and suppose you are trying to make a valid point, and not an attempt make a veiled threat to bomb me personally. Maybe that wasn't your angle, but given your admitted affiliation, it's an important base to cover.

I accept that when something fucked up happens that's particularly depraved from the loyalist side, I tend to tar the UVF with blame. This is absolutely due to my own ignorance, which I do accept as a deficit in my judgement. This isn't because I believe all you guys are cunts. You are a firm believer in your cause, but when it disintegrates into threats on your own community members, drug rings and persecution, it's hard to see you as reasonable people. I don't differentiate the initials, but am yet to find a decent publicised mission statement on each entity, and would appreciate the edification that could come with that level of clarity. Feel free to tell me.

To attack an entire barracks is political. To bring a statutory building to the ground, create a financial fiasco and strong arm a government into financial ruin and civil unrest, reeks of IRA, provided you are murdering enough catholics to cause said ruckus. To bomb a police car with two officers in it seems really personal and based on revenge, when most PSNI officers thesedays barely have the nappy tracks off their arse and didn't even witness the civil war, well that's just not even a wee bit fenian.

It doesn't align with the political motives of the republican paramilitary groups. In saying that, most republicans, particularly the factions of the IRA active during that time, are now peacekeepers. They don't intimidate and persecute member of their own communities (drug dealers and paedophiles excluded), except when it comes to the failure of the legal justice system to exact justice on those who have terrorised their communities.

Maybe it wasn't the UVF. I'm not offay with all the initials of all the groups who pertain to exact loyalist ideals on their communities. As a club member of the UVF, you seem certain it was nothing to do with you guys. Have you done your due dalliance to make sure that the rest of the loyalist acronyms weren't involved?

To bomb a particular car with a particular set of peelers seems personal.

I never mentioned Jamie Bryson. The only explosion that wee lamb is capable of is from is rear end. I doubt he has the mathematical skills or chemical wherewithal to negotiate a boil wash, never mind an IED.

The DUP are a dead party with a dead headed following, dead set on dead ends that the rest of us, for the life of us, have turned our back on. Given their imminent political collapse, this sort of malarkey could potentially drum up support for an otherwise dead in the water political faction. I can't help but speculate that this is a last shit ditch attempt to drum up hate.

It's what you guys do. Everyone seems to see it but you guys.

I might be wrong. I hope I am, but I'm yet to be convinced.

Give it a go.

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