Men should have the legal form of abortion available to them.

I had quite a good argument about LPS on this sub a few days ago if you wanna go through my recent history. We never finished it because I got tired (different time zone + wine) and I think we'd reached a point where neither of us were going to change the other's mind.

I'm kind of sick of arguing against it because the same arguments keep getting rehashed and I get a little bit dogpiled being one of the few feminists here.

BUT if someone wants to convince me that LPS will ever be implemented by any government I think that'd be more interesting (if necessary specify if you're talking about government funded LPS or non-government funded LPS). That's what I wanted to discuss in my last discussion about it, but it never really got addressed.

If someone wants to bite I'll get the ball rolling with parts of my last discussion I feel weren't fleshed out (pick and choose whatever you like:

Governments have "better things" to worry about in the sense that financial hardships, war, censorship etc. are [rightfully] seen as more important. It's easier/more relatable to the public to argue for a male contraceptive and reformed child support laws than it is to argue for LPS. Heck, it's way easier to argue for abortion than it is for LPS. AFAIK LPS has never been implemented anywhere so it's also extremely risky with unknown consequence. Hence LPS as a solution to the problem of men's family planning issues isn't really of much concern to the government

The current system, while flawed and in desperate need of reform, works well enough for society to function. In this system, children are supposed to be raised with a decent amount of money with both parents contributing.

How would one measure the "success" of LPS? How many years would it take for us to say "shit this doesn't work"?

Government-funded LPS is an 18 year commitment. Those funds are already coming from people paying child support so there isn't any motivation on the government's behalf to implement or support LPS.

There isn't really any lobbying for LPS apart from fringe MRA groups - most people have never heard of it and I doubt most people would support it. People tend to prioritise children over adults so you'll be hard-pressed convincing most people that children should go unsupported or get aborted (haha it rhymes!).

Conservatives tend to be more pro-life than the left and thus those people won't support it (as LPS cannot function unless abortion is legal and accessible). Many on the left (and right) won't support it as they feel women may be pressured into abortions they don't want to have. And everyone will feel sorry for the children. There is only a very small amount of people who support LPS despite what this sub may have you believe.

I don't support LPS unless it's entirely funded by the government, so I don't want to allow it and then wait for the funding. But as I mentioned before, I do think child support/family court laws should be amended as well as the introduction of Vasalgel-type products.

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