Thanks, I actually really like the idea of trading the mages out for wizards and the bard out for a shadow knight (in my head I see it holding aggro off the wizards well with the thread SK's have and then the fact that I could be tabbing through 3 windows and almost casting with all 3 wizards at the same time so the aggro would be pretty evenly distributed).

I'm not using any programs or automation so it's a lot of tabbing between windows (using 2 monitors though). As grossly OP as mage pets are at low lvls, I just don't get that same rush as I do from a wizard and the huge chunks you seem them take out of stuff (plus 3 wizard rains when circumstances permit sounds pretty fun to me).

I could pretty much put the SK + the 3 wizards on one monitor and then the chanter + cleric on the 2nd monitor with the the chanter window open by default and the cleric just left with the SK targeted (it was a pain watching which pets were taking dmg and having to try to target them to heal them).

I can tell that boxing this way I'm going to probably spend almost more time pulling than I am actually fighting a lot of the times so instead of trying to grab singles with the bard it would be a lot niceer just to pull multiples with the SK and then them lock down with the chanter and proceed to burn them down one by one.

Thanks for the advice, this is sounding a lot more efficient to try to box, having fewer keystrokes and much more control.