Ask Jehovah’s Witnesses [Weekly thread, if you aren’t a JW please post any questions or topics of discussion here.]

by: AdonisGksu · 800 days ago First of all, I'd like to thank you for being civil in your response. I meant my comment in that way so I appreciate you doing the same. Personally I feel like lately there has been too little civil disagreement and resulting refinement of dialogue within the social justice movement. To me, that's the real power in debate, the ability to refine your arguments until they're razor honed and unassailable. So, thank you for responding. On your main point I'll agree to disagree. But I'll say that two things. First, in my experience positivity always is more powerful and affects more lasting change than negativity. I have yet to see calling it out work to change hearts. Most people react defensively to being put on the spot like that and it takes a lot of concerted effort to retrain yourself to handle it better. To me, the presupposition of that much internal change would be better spent on the actual problems instead of taking the easy way out of calling someone a racist douche. Second, in my own life I've seen that social respect and equality is never a zero sum game. There is no limit on the amount of love and appreciation we can give out. But if we're moving into economic realms, yes there are a finite number of pennies running around. 10 yachts versus 6 is an entirely different question. After all, one can be dirt poor and still be happier than any billionaire. But we can do better, that's obvious. And about the casual racism, you can do with that what you will. I've read a lot about racism only being from white people, or the 3rd wave let's-rewrite-the-dictionary "power+privilege" and I reject the premise there. I personally don't think the color of your skin makes any difference if you're saying things that attribute negative characteristics to a large portion of a race of people. If you're white and you say racist things about black people, that's racist. If you're black and say racist things about white people, that's racist. If you're white and you say racist things about white people, that's racist. But I may have been painting with a broad brush, so feel free to ignore if you don't think it applies. comment on: It's a White Man's Internet · link by: AdonisGksu · 800 days ago I see your point but I take issue with a couple things. The overall tone of hate and division isn't helpful to having realistic conversation and debate on these issues. It's disappointing coming from someone who nominally wants to change minds. But more importantly, this argument is extremely Americentric and historically blind. There are places like Ireland that are full of angry white men that have been horribly mistreated long times before African slavery started. Ever wonder where the "Gingers have no soul" meme comes from? And African descendants have plenty of blood in the past too, look up what Shaka Zulu did to Zwide's mother. Does that mean that the sins of the father should be visited on the sons perpetually? I don't think it does for anyone. I'd like to discuss your theorem: "What is a negative stereotype of an angry white man? There aren't any." I'd just like to point the obvious. They're shallow, closed minded, insular, pedantic, and self-centered. It's the Fox News greatest hits. You also have a misconception about the term "Social Justice Warrior". You seem to think it's a dig against social justice as a category, when it's not. It's a rejection of the idea that social justice can only be accomplished by war. That it can only be, as you so painfully put it, "a zero-sum game". Why must we crater the beautiful idea that diversity, inclusion, and equality enrich us all? What happened to Dr King and his Dream? Look back at Jesus, Gandi, and MLK. Then, and tell me what has changed more than love and peace. Hate isn't the answer. This blurb had a defeatist and pandering attitude, full of casual racism and I feel it wouldn't serve to change one mind that didn't already believe your tenant. Your arguments were malformed and your barbs missed the target. But I thank you for sharing your thoughts and hope you don't take my criticism too harshly. I just think race relations are too complicated for either a Tumblr blog or /r/GamerGate. Please respond, I'm very interested in your take on this. _^ (also, please excuse any autocorrect shenanigans, this was typed on mobile.)

AdonisGksu seems to be getting political.....

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