Athletics and zero carb

Don't mind me but I just want to be proven wrong. If someone can do it, please do. What they used to eat is important for genetics.

That paper seems to be of a more modern hunter/gatherer diet spanning in the range of 10,000 years ago. The zerocarb diet is about long, long before that, ie the past 4ish million years of human evolution where humans did not have to forage plant matter for food, and there was abundant meat from hunts.

What changed between 4 million years ago and 10k years ago? Why would you adapt towards something that old when 10k is much genetically more similar to you?

I believe the idea is that ancient humans lived predominantly on meat and ate plant matter only in times of starvation.

We need solid evidence. I mean we can theorize all day.

caused us to need to be a bit more opportunistic and start eating more and more plant matter, which eventually gave way to agriculture and all that terrible business.

That is a very new development beginning with Akkadians. Native Americans would trade Jerusalem Artichokes all over North America. They'd have JA and buffalo meat. Yes agriculture started war itself, the Akkadians were the first army, supported by agriculture.

The nomadic herder was also likely to eat meat and inulin tubers.

But yeah, I agree with you in that it really isn't a "paleo" diet in the sense of people trying to eat as hunter/gatherers.

Then what is it. Our western diet is making us very sick. There is a one true diet since we are 99.5% genetically identical and more often lactose intolerant than not.

Plus the Inuit are an example of a zero carb society and they are modern human beings.

And what happens over the course of many months is that some of the many carbohydrates that are glycosylated to proteins and fats as glycans, including glycoconjugates, glycoproteins, glycolipids and proteoglycans in all those meats, beaks, feathers, collagens, mucins and blood—which most nutritionists just think of as simple proteins and fats—are degraded by anaerobic digesters into sugars, fatty acids and amino acids. Some of those are further broken down into carbonic acids, alcohols and gasses—which explains the awful rotting smell and foul taste.

The benefits of all this is that the final product contains some accessible carbohydrates, prebiotic glycans and pre-digested compounds (and awful smelling byproducts, of course).

As Tim Steele explained a few months ago, Humans Milk Oligosaccharides (HMOS) exhibit ligand mimicry. But, it turns out that Protein-Linked Glycans (PLGs) exhibit this same mimicry, acting as decoys for pathogenic bacteria. In other words, these undigestible glycoconjugates—which break down into glycans—are both prebiotics for our beneficial bacteria and decoys for pathogens. And, to be honest, this makes sense since the mucins that make up the digestive tract are glycans too!

http://freetheanimal.com/2014/03/disrupting-masai-carbs-prebiotics.html

http://freetheanimal.com/2014/03/disrupting-carbs-prebiotics.html

I don't think zerocarb usually gets hung up on exactly what hunter/gatherer societies ate in the way paleo does.

Well it is making a claim, I am refuting it.

The "don't care" argument is always annoying. If they don't care then don't say it. It does matter, since diet and genetics come together. There are genes that know how to seek out the prebiotics in the mothers breast milk.

We just know that our bodies thrive optimally on an all meat diet, so that is what we do.

If it is thriving then why is the other guy complaining about oily farts. Obviously he needs the prebiotics.

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