Difference between LGBTQ+ Pride and Nationalistic Pride

I am not certain it is the Pride that differs, to the contrary, I think that the pride in this example exemplifies the very nature of pride (and I don't contrast pride with shame, and don't hold either in high regard, nonetheless...); yes there are variations that emerge between nationalistic, cultural, racial pride, and the pride (if I understand correctly) which you speak of, but the Fundamental similarity here is that you are both proud of being what you could not have been otherwise; both proud of being something that neither had a choice or a hand in being, both proud of what neither can claim as their own accomplishment (I mean no disrespect). National pride, as being proud of where you are from/where you were born fails to understand that they didn't choose to be from there, and did not play a role in creating the nation. A failure to acquire/achieve something one can personally be proud of is made worse by resting on some former individuals laurels and claiming that by simply being born in a particular place, they somehow get credit. This sort of thinking is shit-brained. On the other-hand, and I mean no offense, so I'll preface this with my own cultural heritage. My family is Basque, I had nothing to do with this, I cannot claim this as my own doing, so I cannot say Pride is the correct word, but I cannot be made to feel ashamed, and will not condone repressive and oppressive actions taken by Spain and France to claim to own the deed to the land which is clearly an appalling example of imperialism and injustice. Now if perseverance, hardship, difficulty, staying true to yourself, and courage to do so has been a part of your experience, then those are things that you deserve to be proud of. These are things which pride emanates from, and national pride, nationalism, regionalism, jingoism; these fail to meet this criteria. Pride without personal struggle, and personal credit in unearned. Unearned pride with superiority therein is a pernicious form of idiocy, insulting to the intelligence, and should be dismissed after being treated with the contempt and scorn it deserves. This sort of pride is a form of tunnel vision, and I view pride as corrupting and limiting to reason and understanding. Now I'll take contrary opinions into consideration from the OP, but I don't have any response to those that want to defend nationalism and national pride, except that your head up your ass and your nose in the air is quite a feat; as they say, you can't win an argument with an ignorant person, and those who claim national pride and nationalism can waste your own time, you can try to waste mine, but I'm not going to read it, so shove off.

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