Eh I mean honestly the biggest player I know has like a serious issue with women. Like the guy needs to get help it’s a little disturbing sometimes. He has a similar mentality like you see from incels all the time. Ik his mom was abusive and his sisters got used a lot I think that’s where it comes from. But he’s attractive and knows how to play the game so he does very well. He’s got unshakable confidence and he’ll say anything cause he doesn’t care what they think of him. I think incels see people like him sometimes and assume the trick is hating women and being a dick. When really it’s the confidence that gets guys like that laid all the time.