Animals should have no rights

Yes, I do. I find it horrible and abhorrent and anyone has my sympathies who tries to stop it. I can't realistically change it but at least I can take a moral stance that causing so great suffering without any good reason is a bad thing. Even if one wouldn't want to go down the feelies route and persist on the importance of empathy and wants to be all cold and logic instead: Suffering is objectively bad. Causing suffering without a good reason therefore is bad, also. Not causing suffering or even reducing suffering is therefore something good. Bad things are things to avoid. Good things are things to try to accomplish. Because it doesn't make any logical sense to try to accom0plish bad things and avoid good things. It would be insanity to do so. That's the basic argument of any discussion about any animal rights. If you can't argue against this basic idea, you don't really have a leg to stand on.

Some would put a hard distinction between human and non-human animals basically arguing that our own kind is more important than any other. I find it to not be convincing in all circumstances, but I somewhat see where these come from. But it can also be just an in-group / out-group thing: I'd care for m dog more than for a street dog in Bosnia. At the end of the day, I would still put an emphasis on suffering. However, reading your comments here makes it look that you don't really only talk about animal rights but rights in general.

Sure, "I don't care" is a catch-all to basically any issue in this world. But funnily enough, your stance on "I don't care as long as it doesn't hurt / benefit me" is a stance that at the end very easily can hurt you, ironically, as anyone else may embrace it also. Imagine a situation could arise when not helping you with your problem could be the more safer or just the more comfortable way of going about the issue. "I don't care as long as it doesn't help me directly" is not only, some would argue, against the social and empathetic nature of humans but also just a very dangerous path to tread on as it can backfire very easily and very hard when other people embrace the idea also.

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