Church of St. Peter and St. Paul, Vilnius, Lithuania

First off- lithuania has a turbulent political history for the past two centuries, also often involving spill-over from russia.

Okay and? Every country has a turbulent political history.

I have part Lithuanian ancestry myself.

Irrelevant.

As you're probably aware Lithuania initially declared independence from the Russian empire after the bolshevik revolt, only to later be occupied by Soviets and have it's church/religious institutions oppressed.

I can bring up historical facts that have nothing to do with the conversation as well :) Just because white russians didn't target religion doesn't mean they were a positive force. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Terror_(Russia)

The Russian empire didn't do this (white russians), it was red Russians who did this religious oppression.

So the only important thing is religious oppression? Do you realize that Christians were attacking Lithuanians long before that? So since you think religious oppression is the most important thing on the planet let me tell you that the church in this thread was built over a sanctuary for a pagan goddess which was destroyed by the Christians. Christians oppressed the pagans :) So that's even a fun fact that's actually relevant. Let me rephrase it in a way that you will understand though:

The red Russian Christian losers who LARPed around harassing random religious people with the state and church funded "Militant Atheist League" Catholic military order.

Here's what the Russian empire did. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification Notice how Soviets are included in the article as well. Both whites and reds were made from the same cloth.

And this existed for several decades at some level until 1990. There are many victims of the red Russian Bolsheviks, and lithuania has many museums dedicated to victims of partisans.

Yeah, okay but it still has nothing to do with the thread... Look just because it's a picture of a church in Lithuania doesn't mean that everything from history of Lithuania is suddenly on the table and somehow connected. Especially since the guy literally just said that the church is white. How on earth does your mind go from "well this church is white hence white russia and all that comes with it"? There are monuments for the victims of white Russians as well as Imperial Russia as a whole. There are monuments to victims of Christians that persecuted pagan Balts. There are monuments for everything.

"Red russian" is in fact a relevant term. You realize there are in fact some Russian Catholics (a minority) right? Overwhelmingly most are Russian orthodox, but not all.

It's not relevant in the thread. The Russian civil war in general is offtopic. It doesn't even work as a joke. You're trying to connect a church in Lithuania with a civil war in Russia. There are also muslim Russians. So what?

I wasn't "shilling" for white russians, I literally continued the comment fun of changing the association with "white". I was NOT the first to change the "white" association. The opportunity arose for witty input and I threw in some (well deserved) anti-partisan jabs.

I guess there's no point in arguing about taste... You know if you're going to try to make jokes based in historical fact you should at least try to make those jokes where it's applicable not arbitrarily trying to interject it.

Still; Do you deny that partisans oppressed and murdered religious people in soviet occupied territories?

Where does this question come from? The Forest Brothers didn't oppress civilians. You're very ill informed if you think otherwise.

Attacking me for bringing this up is pretty much holocaust denial.

No, holocaust denial is holocaust denial. I never denied the holocaust, nor do I deny that the reds and whites or the Russian empire and the Soviet union oppressed and murdered people and put them in gulags and so on.

You trying to paint the white russians as not a hostile entity and as dangerous as the red russians is more questionable here.

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