Define God please. Everyone seems to believe in a different God or a concept to vague to believe in.

Where the fuck did I once claim I was talking about the god for the bible?! Or for that matter Jesus?! Wtf are you serious right now? Like I don't even know where to start with your stupid ass reply. I feel like I'm talking to a 3rd grader yelling, "No I'm not, you are!"

I'm using one specific religion as an example. For future reference, insert "all powerfull God" to any God or Christianity mention.

stupid insults

Yeah yeah, your a big boy. We got it.

Nor is the anything evil about letting a person learn on there own so they can overcome obstacles and grow.

Sure. But that only make sense in the reality. The one without any supernatural BS. What about causing people pain and suffering, with no justification, but that you will be rewarded after death. Is that evil?

And no serious person who understands the concept of god, thinks god is the reason that children don't get food

Not at all. If God is defined as all powerfull, he is the exact reason why children are not getting enough food. It all depends on how you define it. So tell me. Is God all powerfull?

Simply put god is not evil for not fixing everything in the world. And even doing so would force people to lack free will

Why? Couldn't there be a free will without evil, pain and suffering? Or are those things a pre-requisit of free will?

God could be willing and able to stop evil/suffering but doesn't cuz he wants us to handle it on our own

Which is exactly why "if all powerfull God exists" is wicked and evil, or not all powerful lat all. And I really can't believe you don't see this.

If God is all powerfull, omnipotent, etc... He is able to prevent all evil, in the way that it is not affecting our free will, or anything else negatively.

If he is able, but doesn't want to. he is wicked. If he wants to, but it is impossible to do that. He is not all powerfull.

And more so than that, if God makes sure that those who die needlessly go to heaven, he is no doubt, good.

So end justifies the means then? Answer me this. Hypothetically, if killing all Jews makes the world objectively better, not only that, but a paradise, a rapture, a heaven on earth. It allowes us to unite people and look beyond. Is the global genocide the right way?

God did this so people had free will, even the free will to not believe in him

What if they don't? And they are fighting actively against them. Is God letting them into heaven?

While god doesn't stop this due to free will, he can still comfort those forever, after the fact. This action doesn't hinder free will, nor does it force people like you to accept god.

Is Hiter in heaven? Or is he punished?

ut hey I'm tried of writing on my phone so I'm going to switch to my ipad for the rest of my comment

Finally. Really dude. formate a little. And stop using the word cuz. It's horrible.

Also, please give me a definition of evil

Wide array of things, as to cover everything that is negative and destructive in life. Evil includes immoral, bad, unjust, painful. The notion of demise of the virtuous and prosperity of the wicked, etc...

But I doubt you will find exact definition.

And please understand you lack any real level of logic

Oh the irony.

z in order to PROVE god is illogical you who have to do that for every concept of god past and present. The fact you don't understand that PROVE you are illogical, and have no concept of logic to begin with.

The fact that you don't understand the burden of proof, is astounding.

First, If there is God, you must prove him by empirical evidence. You cannot, so we must aggree to some definition of God. I define it as, well God. The all powerfull, omnipotent creator. If that is the definition we will use. The problem of evil arises.

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