Sorry that you feel that way but it is super clear you didnt read this thread. Im sorry, but I have no repsect for those who do not read this thread only had 4 post at the time you posted your comment. You would of known that at the time of this issue I was using firmware version 8.something. So firmware broke my apps, isnt gonna fly because my firmware wasnt updated at the time of the original post. Yes Im combative because this is the only VR subreddit that mass downvotes for really no good reason, I am asking those who only wish to bring harm and discourse to stay away not those who want to build something better. Now I was using the most up to date versions of both apps, but now I have sidequest I uninstalled them and reinstalling them via sidequest ill update this post when I have tested them out.