Thanks for clarifying. But to say no one complained about paying for live subscription is being ignorant. You can have a look at various archived forums out there from the mid 2000s, like this one, and people were actually hoping that PS wouldn't introduce a similar model with the launch of the PS4, myself included. The reason why many of us, including myself was okay with paying for Xbox Live, however, was like I mentioned previously- the superior online service. Coupled with the monthly AAA titles introduced like you said in 2013 still beats the PS service by far. You have to remember that the PS3 was a fair bit more expensive than the 360 at launch, and was the only place to play one of the greatest franchises at the time: Halo. That game alone made it worth paying that subscription fee for MANY people, and it was a truly different time for gaming back then. People have much more of a voice online, just like how you put across your points, but you have to remember why people would not see the logic in your original post. We are consumers, we have much more of a voice and presence online than ever before, AND that can have a huge impact on large organisations collectively. AAA games have been offered on this platform (just recently LBP3), just not as consistently as we would have liked. And I've seen people buy games on sale which have become PS+ game titles. In that sense, that money could have been spent elsewhere also. Look at the success of rocket league- to say offering that as a PS+ upon launch didn't work out for them would be crazy. Even though we received it for free, people still went out to buy the game on other platforms just to support the devs, and its playerbase has become so huge. That just goes to show the importance of a launching a quality title. There are several indie game titles that I have enjoyed, like Valiant Hearts, Never Alone, Fez... The list goes on. But most often, we get rubbish games that are not even worth downloading, because it was developed by people who didn't do something different or unique. Simply releasing AAA titles is obviously not going to address quality of games necessarily, but people would see it as getting more value for their money, because AAA titles are not cheap, and even when they eventually become so cheap, people are still holding off to buy it because there is still some hope left that it will eventually see its way on PS+. We've waited this far, and I would hate to see a game I've bought end up becoming a free title.