The current state of PvP and the people in it

Hello. I'm new to PVP. I really like PVP.

For me I don't find the RNG in Seal Rock to be an issue. If RNG doesn't work out for you one time, it usually works out for you another time.

The thing I dislike about PVP the most are the people who go completely crazy if something goes wrong and start spamming chat. They're exactly the kinds of people I don't want to associate with on the internet, lol. I've noticed there's a tendency to utterly give up early and start being really mean. Like, oh, we didn't get any nodes on the first spawn TIME TO MOAN IN ALL CAPS until the rest of their team wishes someone would LB them so hard they log out. It's completely possible to win a match that you don't get any tomes on the first spawn, esp if people would drop their keyboards and start playing. Even if you can't actually win without a lucky S spawn, you might as well keep going and be in a position that a lucky S spawn would win it for you.

The only other thing I dislike are people calling out tactics aggressively that are sometimes, IMO, stupid. For example, things like when the game is nearing the end and there's a chance we could take it if we attacked and stole the node from the lead. Usually people are still spamming DEFEND <SE.1> DEFEND <SE.1> and in this case defending is useless because we will only defend our second place. Defending is nice (especially at the start) and running uselessly into enemy areas alone is not good but in my experience most of the games that were won without insane RNG were because we all moved as a group and took nodes from other people.

It's just really irritating to have people spamming things like LEAVE NORTH too when I can see that there's barely anyone at the north point and we would easily take the node if people didn't split up because some guy who isn't there told them to do it three times in caps with a sound effect. Usually if you do what they say and mosey on back to the south, there's nothing going on there anyways and it's just ugh.

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