You seriously don't think his family were telling him they love him? Based on what? You are also massively overestimating the effect of classes in self-efficacy/self-esteem in the context of extreme bullying, whilst under-estimating the effect of constant, extreme bullying (even constant minor bullying in the context of lots of social microaggressions).
I never said his family didn't tell him they loved him, however that is not a skill set. I'm over estimating by whose standards? By yours? Have you studied psychology and education? Have you been a teacher and facilitated real life programs based on what you theorize? No. I have. I'm not underestimating anything at all. You've just gone on this dramatic exaggerated clause for your argument. There are many courses of self intervention to take within himself and towards other people to counter the affects and deal with the behaviours occurring.
No, you made it about money by claiming that that is their motivation. I gave you a whole bunch of scenarios in which they could be suing the school for a variety of other reasons. Money may be the least of their concerns - even though it's a valid one. Why are you focusing on that, and not the other potential benefits of holding someone accountable for their actions?
No I didn't say that was their prime motivation at all. I disagreed with it from the perspective as the sole way to deal with such a situation. You didn't list any other scenarios at all previously which you believe may leave the school liable. By the way, just to educate you, it's the school that'll be liable it's the state department of education that they're currently in. I don't think money is the least of their concerns, despite your attempt to write them up in this angelic manner, when that is primarily what they're pursuing. Also if you open your mind that much more, you'd see that my approach not only holds the behaviour of those around him accountable but it empowers him to be that much more accountable to himself for his own thoughts and positive interjections in the face of such bullying. This is far more likely to stop bullies when they see they have no power vs months and years of waiting to be sued in the court system.
If one person sues them, maybe they'll put into place some better processes so that the next kid doesn't have to? so, y'know, it doesn't need to be an expectation that every child goes to court. Also, why on earth are you assuming he hasn't accepted himself? Where does it say that? His problem is OTHER people not accepting him.
Do you know how many cases have gone to court over bullying in the last 10 years? Get a grip on your idealism, it's delusional. Do you know how many people we've had suicide regardless of whether the perpetrator goes to prison or not? THERE HAS TO BE SOME OTHER COURSE OF INTERVENTION! You have to got to be kidding. Do you really believe in your own simplistic basic assessment of the scenario that you think this boy accepts himself? You know nothing about the through process or the affects of bullying. There are many ways to not develop disorders, to stay at the same school and it begins with one's own self image and self esteem irrespective of the garbage people attempt to throw at you. This boy didn't leave school and develop depression solely because they threw a death threat at him, this boy had serious issues to start with. Self esteem, self image and his own internal dialogue about himself and his lack of communication to those bullies played a significant role. One which you've conveniently overlooked not just due to ignorance but for the sake of an extremely naive argument you're attempting to make. Do you really believe that our self esteem and happiness is in the hands of OTHER people accepting us? You're either lying to yourself, hoping that I'll believe you or you're incredibly stupid. If we sit around and wait for everyone's approval in life, we'd be in huge trouble. The problem was absolutely his own issues within himself that were unresolved and could've easily been dealt with, with the correct application in thought process and words directly to those few kids. NOT to sit around and wait for their acceptance, when they're got problems of their own and that of which should be NO ONE'S motivation in life at all. You've got things so twisted in trying to deflect blame and responsibility, when you have no contingency plan, it's not even funny. This is your incredibly challenged thought process thus far: if they don't like you, you'll have no choice but not to accept yourself, change schools, develop depression and sue to set an example for others so maybe hopefully it'll put an end to bullying in the future. Absolutely clueless about psychology, education and the systems at large.
This is you not making it about money, is it?
Try not to take one comment and ignore the initial reply it was in response too totally out of context - it'll give you a lot more credibility than fabricating things to mount an argument. You've totally ignored an initial dialogue where the motivation was about money and an attempt to justify it - I was addressing this alone in the comment you were referring to as well as a credible backing in where real solutions could be established.
Since you clearly know what he didn't and didn't do in detail that is not contained in publicly available information, could you please link to the source? Do you know him? How do you know he doesn't aceppt himself?
No i don't have to know the boy personally to draw the conclusions I have. My background is in psychology and education. When you have the formal formal study and years of experience and you look into this case it's a basic conclusion to draw that at the very least this boy did not accept himself. It's the backbone of so much when people face challenges in their youth and schooling.
Accepting yourself is NOT a cure-all against being bullied: my partner has always accepted herself and was bullied mercilessly at school. By your logic, that shouldn't have happened.
No actually that's not my logic, your stupidity and manipulation have completely twisted everything to this simplistic, extreme degree. I don't know your partner, so I'm not going to comment on her. I will say that whatever you little examples you bring to this discussion with me, I won't believe for a moment unless I've investigated it more for myself, because I can only imagine the fabrications you've tacked on. Acceptance was never asserted as a 'cure all'. You've made another wrong assertion and employed and increasingly misguided word in association with bullying. There is 'cure all' full stop when dealing with people. There's no saying by your deranged logic that you've tried to impose on me well i've got my confidence now, all be well. That was never asserted, that's just what you've twisted things down to be at the bottom of the barrel. A sense of confidence is a life long maintenance job, it's not a one off or to use your terrible words cure all. It has to be worked at daily and given the right coaching, positive affirmation from many people, young people can and do make it through without moving schools and going to court. There's a huge amount lacking in that boys approach that would've assisted him in dealing with it all differently.
You are out and out victim blaming someone for having depression now?
Is it your genuine logic, your blatant stupidity, sarcasm, manipulation or a bit of everything? I know you've got an argument to make, you're a homosexual so it's only natural that you'd want to jump up and down in defence of this boy and ensure that he's totally helpless and it's all the system to blame and sue. However, I've worked with children and teens, I'm part of the system and regardless of what you want to falsely assert because of your own emotions and issues, there's so much more to it than this.
The fact that that boy moved schools and developed depression screams volumes about the work he didn't do within himself that he will need for the rest of his life in order to learn the lessons he should have.
There's nothing blaming about this statement at all. IF you want to go through life happily, you have to take responsibility, whether you like it or not. I can't just say well he teased me, i'm off to a different school and i'll sue them too because they didn't practice their policy well enough. No, there's so much that rests on your shoulders and how you deal with the situation yourself in person and away from it all that helps you get through. It's precisely what this boy needed in that circumstance and will require beyond any court case, when he faces other challenges in life on his own and must do if he wants to live a happy, successful life.