How do we know the difference between red shift caused by the big bang and red shifts caused by cosmic voids and super massive black holes?

Super massive black holes and cosmic voids would cause a similar type of coordinated movement that would appear as expansion.

that is what you claim. i dispute the claim. in fact the claim is very certainly wrong (i'd have to ask you to support your claim).

furthermore i said:

How would a big bang look different than a big pull if the same region had super massive black holes and cosmic voids sprinkled throughout the same space?

that in turn is a valid question. you'll have to go into the math to see that they are different things. it may only appear similar as long as you are working on a purely qualitative level. as soon as you go into the quantitative level (the mathematical consequences of such a setup) you will find that they don't predict the same thing.

what do i mean qualtiative vs quantitiave:

qualitative: "couldn't the sun be just fire? both the sun and burning wood are warm. how do you tell the difference?"

quantitative: mathematical facts about wood burning and about fusion. conclusion: what we observe is not consistent with "a big piece of wood burning".

i don't see how a "cosmic void" would cause redshift at all

and

i don't see how some random black hole would cause redshift of light from all galaxies.

and you still didn't answer this.

it doesn't even fit qualitatively.

/r/AskPhysics Thread Parent