All the more reason stony should mandate and police vaccinations
Um
First, if vaccine protection in immunocompromised patients is already lower than in the general population, protection against variants that escape vaccine-induced sterilizing immunity (which is mediated specifically by neutralizing antibodies) is likely even further reduced. Second, immunocompromised individuals may not be safe from infection even within highly vaccinated populations.
You can still pass the virus to immunocompromised people when vaccinated if it's still circulating. The solution to this is to prevent it from circulating for long enough that it's no longer circulating in a community. Masks and vaccines are not solely enough to prevent circulation completely.
More specific info copied and pasted from other thread
It [the vaccine] is NOT effective against hospitalization and death in immunocompromised people. That is my point. An overwhelmingly large portion of severely immunocompromised people aren't any better off after getting vaccinated than before.
As of July 2021, nearly half of the vaccinated people hospitalized with breakthrough COVID-19 infections were immunocompromised – despite making up only 2.7% of the U.S. adult population. In comparison, the rate of breakthrough cases among vaccinated people who are not immunocompromised was less than 1%.
Several recent studies have found that antibody production in immunocompromised patients is worryingly low. One study, performed at Columbia University and NewYork-Presbyterian, found that only about half of solid organ transplant patients had detectable antibodies after SARS-CoV-2 infection. Another study, in kidney transplant recipients, found that 75% of patients had no detectable antibodies after getting fully vaccinated against the coronavirus
First, if vaccine protection in immunocompromised patients is already lower than in the general population, protection against variants that escape vaccine-induced sterilizing immunity (which is mediated specifically by neutralizing antibodies) is likely even further reduced. Second, immunocompromised individuals may not be safe from infection even within highly vaccinated populations.
https://asm.org/Articles/2021/August/How-Effective-Are-COVID-19-Vaccines-in-Immunocompr
https://www.cuimc.columbia.edu/news/are-immunocompromised-patients-left-out-covid-vaccines
Even normal flu vaccines do not work, and leave the flu a huge risk to immunocompromised people. Except the flu is still significantly less dangerous, significantly more treatable, and when is the last time we've had a flu outbreak at this scale?
The vaccine being so effective for normal people, does not mean that it is such for immunocompromised people. Since it is well known that pretty much all vaccines barely work in immunocompromised people (covid vaccines are honestly way more effective for us than other vaccines, and still not amazingly effective), they are not included in trials for vaccine efficacy.
I got multiple blood tests after the first two vaccines and showed up completely negative for antibodies, proteins, t cells, etc. Even if I get something to show up after the third vaccine, it's extremely unlikely to be enough to protect me.
I don't care that sbu reopened but they did a terrible job of accommodating people who are at risk. With 80 percent of classes being in person, the only options for a lot of students are to either take a gap semester or put themselves at risk with students who can't be bothered to wear masks in hallways or sit in classrooms with no social distancing at all, without the confidence that if someone with covid is sitting near them that they'll get enough notice to be able to hospitalize themselves asap before getting too sick. Professors are not required to accommodate these students either as it's somehow considered unreasonable to record all lectures and allow separate times to complete in person labs
It is impossible to have students in person with the current rules without online alternatives and have them still be safe, especially when students are frequently not following the current rules either.