So, let’s start at this years gathering. Soopavillian concept for the gathering. What does twiztid do during that week? Sell shirts for a band that never existed outside of a concept. (SoopaHeroes, which was suppose to be the counter to the soopavillians, and had twiztid, blaze and abk as the roster, but never came to light) That was dirty, and underhanded blow at icp.
Sounds like a hilarious joke tbh.
We all know why they never materialized on Psychopathic and we never got the soopavillian soopahero rap battles that were hyped in a single flyer hidden in the back of a Forgotten Freshness
Because ABK left psychopathic.
Because of the same reasons Twiztid left the first time and the second time
Nobody was getting paid, they were getting shitty contracts, and J was overly involved in everyone's lyrics, style, and tours.
It's such a well known thing, when ABK came back to Psy (On a special contract that allows him to maintain Native World), and Hoodoo was late for a seminar ABK called it out publicly "J got you stuck going over his new lyrics for you for the new album?"
example. Last year twiztid agreed to do the gathering. Yeah that’s right, twiztid agreed to do the gathering 19. But the price they had asked was outrageous.
Okay, I actually can't get into this with you because I have insider information.
What I can tell you about this entire subject is you have it wrong, fucking wrong, and extremely fucking wrong.
Twiztids only requirements for the gathering which they agreed to do at a discount, was that they get to sell merch and that at least one person from their liable got on second stage.
J didn't want to do that.
They had to fight tooth and nail to get merch booths the first year, the second year they had to fight tooth and nail.
and J delayed their set for two hours
Then made an impromptu seminar on "loyalty" before their set, and grabbed random people from the crowd and security, put them in crew shirts and said they worked at Psy (they did not)
While this was going on, and Twiztid was two hours late
They tried to get Lex to go on his set an hour early while nobody was there
The next year, they agreed to do it, at the same price with no limits on their merch sales and a hard and fast contract to avoid what they did the year before.
Psy refused. More specifically J refused.
Your speculation is nothing but nonsense and I saw the texts.
I would like to note, that since leaving psy and making MNE, that was their only negotiation method. They would refuse to play if they weren’t getting paid and one of the masters. Look, Mutant, green book, mosttastless, and I’m pretty sure there was another that my mind is going blank on.
It is common in the music industry to have your masters released when you leave a label. The Clowns sued Island for their masters back.
Next we hit on my least favorite topic. Diet Lotus,... all the same with half the flavor. Just because they have 50% of the group (Madrox, Mono, and Blaze) doesn’t mean the other 50% of the group (Violent J, Shaggy 2 Dope and ABK) should be forgotten.
This is again nonsense, Twiztid
A) had been doing diet lotus for years, even before they left Psy.
B) they have always maintained that they will do a Lotus record any time they're asked.