CMON. Pull the pin on a grenade in this sub post already. I’ll be the first one to say I will no longer respond to this. Buy the creamiest one you can get to see if you like it. He’s right you shouldn’t spend over $100 on a product that you really don’t even need, especially if it’s your first Dynavap. You want to buy a lightly used 2021 VonG for..$85 including shipping with tracking? If so go to the Dynavap Exchange I know I have one for sale on there. They shipped me two of them when I bought it for twice as much as a BB because I already had one. Plus I have to kill this post because it’s dividing stoners which is just wrong. Enjoy whatever you decide to buy. Either one will do pretty much the exact same thing give or take.