Their laundry soap is very good. The bit of the vitamins is very true. Amway owns the farms that grow the ingredients, the manufacturing that makes them. Supply chain is a big deal. And it shows in the quality. The biggest problem isn’t really Amway. It’s the LOAs Amway doesn’t sell seminars and training materials. All of that is freely available if you are an abo. The LoA groups like World Wide Dream Builders push their training products and seminars over selling the Amway products. Amway can’t really stop them but it’s not Amway, even when they position themselves to suggest they are Amway. Full disclosure, I work for Amway corporate in Grand Rapids , MI