I appreciate your respectful post, and your ability to make good points without feeling the need to create labels or make threats.

I'm also a gamer. However, while I do enjoy the experience of games, I am very objective focused. I tend to play for an objective, and if a game has no clear objective to work towards, I create one for myself.

However, the objective isn't just the only thing, the experience is also important. Because if the objective was the only thing, i could just cheat, like you say, and whip my way through. But that wouldn't be enjoyable, it would be meaningless, and a waste of a challenge that the game presents. But that's just me, and my completionist-type play style.

You are right, this is one of the mental traps of welfare. When things can be done without much effort, it can tempt you into laziness, and you need to be on guard against this constantly, in your mind and in your actions. While this is a concern, I don't see how it is large enough of an issue to throw out an entire plan. More like a weak spot to watch out for. I do appreciate you bringing it up.

And you are right, working full time can be just awful, especially if you hate what you do. Sometimes, you don't have an choice. I often don't mind something so much when I have no choice, or think I have no choice. Sort of goes along with the "ignorance is bliss" saying.

However, I don't think getting money from welfare is made dishonestly, so long as you didn't lie on your applications, or make up dependents, or otherwise cheat the system and break the law.

Think about it a minute. Is it dishonest to get retirement benefits from Social Security? Of course not. How come? Cause you payed for it. Yeah, you're benefits are being payed for by current workers, so the money is being made off the backs of others, but you did your share.

The same applies in my case. I've payed taxes, in one form or another, since I was 7 years old. Thousands and thousands of dollars. And I'll have payed thousands more, before I am ready to collect welfare, and thousands more while I am on welfare. The difference here is one way is looked on as acceptable by society at large and one isn't.

What do you think about this?