You’re going to have to elaborate on exactly what you mean by this, because scientifically this term has a very precise meaning.
The probationer is the less concentrated solution and their brain is the semi-permeable membrane. By picking things up from more experienced officers on the job in real time. There is no other way, it would seem.
As much as this is a lingering attitude, it has dropped off massively in recent years, mostly because there aren’t many lifers around anymore. What is true though, is that the state of policing currently means that it takes most people significantly longer than 2 years to actually have their basic policing skills nailed down, so when they try to specialise or climb ranks straight out of probation, they tend to be noticeably behind where they should be.
Allegedly, that presumes that everyone else was so much further along when they were 2 years in than they are today. Probationers 20 years ago were also not mega at the job and the work was allot less complicated. Theft is still theft, the process of dealing with theft, dramatically more involved (than it needs to be).
- Everyone could be the ACC, DAC, Commander, Commissioner, whatever they just don't want to be (unlike the military where you'd have to switch track entirely)
All PCs assume they could be in charge if they wanted to be, and therefore supervisors are by definition no better at anything than they are.
- you can't be taught anything that's worth knowing (or you wouldn't have picked up on the job anyway)
No, I'm afraid this is exactly what it means. Do I need to add /s? Really?
- Anything you've been taught was done so badly it would be useless in any case.
Same, exactly the same. Links to number 4. This pervasive idea that you can't be taught shit and even if you were, it's pointless.
(This happens inside a thing called an epistemological bubble, look it up)
- Supervision is unnecessary, PCs should just be trusted to get on with it, won't ever get anything wrong, don't need direction and the only check and balance required is the custody officer and the pace inspector. (not said out loud but try to give an instruction to a PC about a job and bloody hell it can be like you've chastised a fucking 6 year old. Another distinction between the police and the military)
Nope, this one is obvious too, have you considered becoming a detective?
- The idea that cops should have greater intellectual capacity than they did 40 years ago and do some more general learning might be a good thing (read any value in further and and higher education) must be totally and utterly verboten!
But can't be arsed to highlight which ones, righto.
Cool story. In this country detectives were traditionally experienced coppers, and able to actually go out and do their own jobs. This is progressively becoming less true, and direct entry schemes aren’t helping it. I’d argue it is weakening the job as a whole.
Yes because we couldn't possibly learn anything from anywhere else. British exceptionalism at its finest. Have you seen the content for the SIO course?
You can't weaken the job when you can't recruit detectives in the first place. Weakening the job is by taking the average case load 15 years ago of 8-10 and making it 25
This is the kind of attitude that thinks clinging onto the past will somehow solve the problems of the present. You know they said the same thing about Women PCs and short Policemen!
There has been a growth in the amount of time spent detecting fraud. A large number of policemen work in scientific sections in the police force, pushing back the frontiers of knowledge on matters such as fingerprints. More time is spent on traffic control; more patrolling is done by car and less on foot.
In these areas of police work, which are of growing importance, height is totally irrelevant to the efficient discharge of duties. By restricting themselves to recruiting taller men, the police are depriving themselves of the services of half the male population in areas such as forensic science where height is of no consequence.
There must have been gnashing of teeth and wailing when this was proposed...
I’d like to know the specifics of this before comparing. By most sources it takes 2 years of training to be a police officer in this country, because probation is considered training, when we both know it’s not really the case.
I'm not going to presume the strength of your German but this here is a fantastic description of the entire process: https://polizist-werden.de/polizei-laufbahn-mittlerer-dienst/, this is the google translate, https://polizist--werden-de.translate.goog/polizei-laufbahn-mittlerer-dienst/?\_x\_tr\_sl=auto&\_x\_tr\_tl=en&\_x\_tr\_hl=en-US&\_x\_tr\_pto=wapp (it's incredibly accurate, well done google)
The short version though is year 1 is academic and year 2 is practical. look at the section: AFTER THE PLACEMENT TEST, THE TRAINING BEGINS