German Wikipedia ArbCom left unable to act by massive resignations protesting neo-nazi arbitrator

The path of reconciliation is VERY simple. Stop making the mistake. And sorry but it's not my job to tell you how to avoid making a mistake. If you ask for help, I might or might not but either way, the one that made the mistake is the one with the problem and the only one with a responsibility to fix it.

Got it. "Be perfect, and no, I won't tell you how" is the message you're sending right now.

You're also simply wrong when you claim that the only way to read what I said is to never make mistakes. The world is not that black and white. That we should strive not to make mistakes does not mean that mistakes cannot or will not happen.

Really? Reread your first paragraph. "Stop making the mistake" really sounds like "never make mistakes".

As for fixing a mistake. Well that depends on the mistake. If you make the mistake of driving drunk and running over a kid, there aint nothing anyone can do to fix that mistake. What we can do is learn from it and try to make sure that others do not make the same mistake. If you think there's any other help needed to not make the mistake than "dont do that", then seek professional help because that's called ocd and very treatable today if you just seek help... As for the mistakes of Ryulong, Salvidrim and his fellow admins have decided not allow people to fix the mistakes, so while there in theory certainly is a way, in practice it's actively worked against.

You're right, Wikipedia wars are like running over a kid drunk. Thank you for correcting me there.

Please continue to strawman what I said because you can't win against what I did argue.

You're part of the reason it's worked against, don't you see that? If they think both you and Ryulong are unreasonable, and then think, well Ryulong went too far but was ultimately right, of COURSE they're going to not actively fix mistakes he made. They still think YOU'RE unreasonable, so why help you?

As for having an open mind... on what? That we should ignore mistakes instead of learning and preventing it in the future. Yea my mind is quite made up about that because it's the only rational position. Being open minded does not mean accepting everything everyone says.

"That we should ignore mistakes instead of learning and preventing it in the future." That has never been an argument I made. Quite the opposite. You don't learn. You don't prevent. All you do is whine. You cry about mistakes and then give up on the learning and preventing. You can play a more active role in learning and preventing, but you refuse to. You'd rather stand on the moral high ground, except, you don't realize you're just standing on a mountain of ashes.

Seriously dude. I want to agree with your side, but you're being just as unreasonable, if not more so.

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