I had a group if new players and two of them I try to say to try and figure it out.

We we're doing Kush the other day and they were struggling with the wind. They asked me, and they've done it before, how to get past it. I tell them that there is a way, and the only clue I gave was that went to the box to see if it had any throwing knives.

They got fussy like I'm purposely keep then from progressing. "Come on dude, just tell us. We're not going to beat it unless you tell us." It was their first attempt.

It was the second time I got annoyed by them in that way. The first involving us going out of our way to get their SOS trophy hunt, and another later wanting to do only specific quests to try to get crowns for their trophies.

And they don't notice when new features show, like a mantle. Learned they skip all dialog and cutscenes.

They don't play to have fun. Just hunt for trophies. I'm fine playing with just my GF. She likes the adventure.