and if it is something that God putspeople in or rather something that people throw themselves into by rejecting God

When we take a deep look at some of the savagery done in God's name, and on God's orders....

One must ask if any human with a sense of moral decency would not reject God I'd counter Lewis by saying that it is, in my eyes at least, not a lock on the inside. It is a barricade against what's on the other side.

I do not know where concrete, eternally true moral facts come from, but I do not believe they come from a god who stands by in silence while his prophet orders a nation's worth of young girls hauled off as slaves. Who orders his people to slay every living creature that draws breath as they enter the country he promised them. Who, if I am not mistaken, orders or again tolerates, the crushing of the skulls of infants.

I see little point in the two of us rehashing some of these arguments, probably badly (at least on my part ;-) ).

So I'm not going to try to convince you of anything, also because if I'm being perfectly honest I am not sure what I'd want to convince you of. My only point in replying to this thread was to point out that while meditation can have its uses it does not make one invulnerable from all possible harm, in this world or in any other potential one.

Fair enough.