ok so im back home again, thus can type up a proper reply.

See, this is what I meant. Whenever I mention how I don't enjoy using voice chat casually

do you actually convince yourself of this? im genuinely curious.

And if you turn them down they start evangelizing about how great and terrific and fun it is, and how I have the wrong impression and that if I only gave it a chance I would see the light. Any attempts to explain that I have tried it and it's just not for me are met with more patronizing "Yeah but you didn't really try it, ours is different!" Like, fuck off. Edit: Oh right, and if you push through all of that, sometimes they start getting angry. "Well if you're not going to put in the effort to be a part of our community and respect our guild culture then you're not welcome here anyway, good luck accomplishing anything in the game being so anti-social." Like, fuck off.

this is actually the only reason i replied to your post at all.

when first reading your post, you seemed calm and collected and reasonable. i was even about to give you an upvote and nod. then i read that last part and was like WOW that escalated quickly.

Yeah but you didn't really try it, ours is different!

i also want to touch on this bit. you think because "i have tried one, so i have tried them all" type of mentality? how do you know its not different? when you dont atleast try talking to other people you have no fucking clue.

But if you has just said:

I'm definitely more of an ingame chat person, I've always been pretty quiet and even in real life I find it difficult to jump into a conversation, but I can appreciate what voice chat brings and have used it in the past for raid nights and other stuff where it's downright mandatory. I've never been the sort of person who finds being on a prolonged phone call relaxing though, so if an FC or any group makes their teamspeak server a prominent point, I tend to avoid them because what you described almost always happens. What bugs me the most though is how defensive people get when you tell them you just don't like voice chat very much. Like, they just sort of assume that of course you would love to spend hours of your day idling in their mumble room, listening to relative strangers talk about random stuff that has nothing to do with you. Sitting still with my headset on for hours on end just to be included in the guild at the most basic level? Who wouldn't want that? Doesn't it sound so relaxing? No, no, that's not an imposition at all.

i wouldnt have bothered to say anything to you. but you went extremely negative, hateful and overall regressive with the last paragraph of your post. i mean you went from saying, voice chat has its uses, and you from time to time hang out there, but dont feel you need to only use voice like some fcs may do. (i completely agree, and i feel EXACTLY the same way, and i use voice in about that same manner. i use it for raids, or running expert or birb farms with raid members. thats about it. but i still enjoy it and prefer it over ingame chat, and was explaining even if you are not social-able, you can still sue and enjoy voice)

why did you feel the need to add that at the end? seriously? it completely goes against everything you just said. but you felt SO STRONGLY that you had to add that to your post. (hell you even bolded the second "fuck off").

Which is why i felt compelled to post a reply. you seem to be seeking or wanting help, thus i tried to open myself up a bit to you, saying how i am similar in that im not a social person. but that doesnt mean i never want to talk to another human being ever. i play mmos because i want to be social, its just most "normal people" i just dont have enough in common with, and socializing with people in games or in certain internet communities im able to talk with more like minded individuals. i mean why do you play mmos if you arnt going to be social? why not just play a single player game? ffxiv is a honestly terrible game if you are not being social and always playing solo and "doing your own shit" all the time.

and from the sounds of it, you just hop from FC to FC when they start to get too big. why? what exactly is your goal?

There's just something about listening to other people talking to each other directly into my ears that I found extremely grating, especially when I'm just minding my own business. That's the thing, the problem isn't really me talking, the problem is in me listening. I may not be a talkative person, but I don't mind being the quiet one. But, If I'm not taking part in the conversation then I would much rather take off my headset, turn off that white noise, and turn on some music or play some TV or do something else that would appreciate not being constantly interrupted by other people talking about stuff that I really don't need to hear.

This paragraph has a lot of negative words and feelings associated with it.

im not sure what exactly you are implying. are you saying you dont like listening to other people because everyone other then yourself is unimportant in the world and not worth your time to listen to? thats kind of what it sounds like. especially through text (which is the problem with text chat btw, the irony). you say other people talking is nothing but "white noise" to you? how else would anyone interpret that?

i mean saying something that cold, i would probably be more likely to label you as possibly psychopathic. (and theres nothing wrong with getting help btw. there are many people living functional lives with mental illness. its just as important as your physical health. so dont take that as a personal attack).

See, this is what I meant.

i have been completely sincere with my replies to you. and you cherry pick one sentence, and twist it with some warped sense of logic so that im "the bad guy". im part of the group of evil people trying to get you to join the voice chat! we are all against you! join us!

why did you only reply to that one sentence? because i didnt leave anything else that you could possibly argue and save face as a possibly logical argument. And your choice of sentence to reply to, and the way you did was pitiful at best. you still look like a jackass. and then somehow completely twist its context to something i cant even comprehend.

Whenever I mention how I don't enjoy using voice chat casually, I get people who are just completely baffled at this opinion and start trying to diagnose me.

what is it you believe needs to be diagnosed? and is someone taking interest in you and your well being really a bad thing? Even if you do have some kind of mental illness, wouldnt it be better to share and be more open and honest with people and let them try and help you? people are more accepting and helpful than i think you give them credit for...

They assume I must have had some bad experience that isn't indicative of their own group or some misconception about its use that they can correct, and then I can be introduced to the wonderful world of sitting in a chat room.

umm your word choice makes this very clear. its not an assumption, its more like reading what is right in front of them :/

I'm not condemning the entire concept or blaming it for causing fractures in communities

umm no you quite literally said that. im really starting to think you are not genuine at all.

But for me, it's not worth the inconvinience.

again this seems troubling. talking with other people is just "an inconvenience" to you?

I feel you probably think "no one in the world understands me", but thats not true. what the problem is, is that YOU dont understand other people (and from your words, you seem like you have zero intentions of trying to). and thats your problem. if you were to better understand other peoples thoughts and feelings, people would reciprocate that back to you. Then you would probably be more open to talking and listening to other people, and that way you would probably make a lot more friends.