Where is a great place/ source to find pitbull/staffy puppies?

My other points are just impossible for you to argue. There are certified breeders who breed English Bulldogs and pugs and all sorts of unhealthy breeds that should be long gone, but it doesn't fit with your "responsible breeder" idea and you're ignoring it.

This is a completely separate issue and not the one we're talking about. That's why I'm ignoring it. Learn how to stay on topic.

If you really want to talk about that, there are lots of bulldog and pug breeders that are actually working on breeding out all or many of the deformities that cause those dogs to be so unhealthy. Within 15 years, thanks to breeders like those, those breeds will actually be significantly healthier and will be living longer, happier lives. However, there are other breeders that are in it only for the money that continue to breed unhealthy dogs because there are idiots in the world that like the look. Like I said: Breeding needs more regulation, not the be illegal. If breeding were illegal, dogs in general would be extinct within 25 years. You don't want that, do you?

Breeding dogs makes more dogs

Yes, that's kind of the point. If we didn't breed dogs, the species would be extinct within 25 years.

the fact is that dogs die and they are in no way preventing that from happening. Actually, if you want to get really technical, responsible, certified, licensed breeders ARE preventing dogs from dying. See my last post where I explained how your hate is directed at the wrong breeders.

There are 2 kinds of breeders:

  1. Responsible, certified, licensed breeders that want to breed healthy, balanced dogs because they love the breed and/or dogs in general. Not all of these breeders breed purebred dogs, mind you.

  2. Breeders that are only in it for the money and that produce inbred, unhealthy dogs that end up in the shelter where people like you adopt them.

Once again, your hate is directed at the wrong people and your only argument is "but there are dogs in shelters!". If you want to do something about the problem, buy from responsible breeders and take business away from bullshit backyard breeders so they stop manufacturing so many dogs that mostly just end up in shelters. Notice how everything you've said only perpetuates the problem where as everything I've said will eventually lead to the problem being fixed.

Good breeders are not a bad thing, they are necessary to the breed and dogs in general surviving. Bad breeders, like the kid that produced your dog, ARE a bad thing and they are the breeders you should hate. Once again, if your only argument is "I hate ALL breeders because there are dogs in shelters", you're wrong. You have no real argument and your point is based entirely on emotions instead of logical reasoning and facts. Until you decide to start using facts instead of your PMS, I'm done with you.

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