Australian trade minister: Trade deal with the UK 2-3 years away, EU-Australia agreement comes first

Look mate I appreciate you put a lot of effort into your post but I'll be completely frank with you: none of it is new to me because I have spent the last 5 years of my life studying all this. I think on any objective measure it's at best a terrible trade for moderate control over certain largely inconsequential areas of competence (as the EU would call them) predicated on lies and an undercurrent of xenophobia, an undercurrent that has very legitimate concerns fuelling it that have been scapegoated toward the EU rather than the perpetual failures of post-Thatcher governments to address any of the underlying issues that've lead to enormous inequality in this country. At worst it's a decisive turning point in British political history where we really, truly have turned our backs on the liberal pragmatism that's guided this country on and off for a good couple of centuries and we're about to experience life as the first second rate power with ICBMs on a shitty little isolationist island selling our regulatory system to the highest bidder to try and keep up with Europe's richer countries.

I don't really care about Brexit or what it means at this point. I care about the fact that Brexit happened because a particularly vocal and vitriolic group, spearheaded largely by Tory backbenchers and UKIP, have managed to unambiguously damage my future because they never shut up about an issue that was supposedly settled in a referendum 43 years ago. I care about the fact that that same fanaticism, that same willingness to say "fuck it" to anything and everything but (in this case) re-entry into the EU does not seem to have taken hold nearly as strongly within the Europhile camp because they are unwilling to, as Eurosceptic did, blackmail and cajole their Parliamentary peers, unashamedly lie to the public and engage in brinkmanship that puts the country on the line. I wish the same fervour and bloody-mindedness that has got us to this point was present on my side - I lament that it is not so.

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