Nope. They were like there are predefined definitions for everything. Basically the debate started over what can be considered natural and what cannot be. She believed human invention cannot be considered natural, I said as even humans are part of the natural ecosystem everything that happens is natural (even evolution of human intelligence).

So I added in that as a point to explain that the whole universe is just atoms arranged into different configurations. So everything we have defined is just an arbitrary construct. And predefined beliefs can always be challenged (that's the basis of scientific discovery). I think they ended up getting offended over that.

Well perhaps their was an individual occurrence and not related to the gross ENFJs. But when I had the same discussion with INTPs or XNFPs they were very welcoming of this idea