It's just feelings you have. You have these feelings because the liberal literature you've been reading has told you to have these feelings. This is why I accuse you of drawing your views from an echo chamber.
Reading books by people of color who can convey their experiences does not necessarily make them "liberal" books. If it is liberal to read a non-white book, then yea, I guess by your definition only I am liberal. It is hard to understand people if you're not studying their culture in multiple ways. Some of your posts suggest you are an engineer so the ambiguity and subjectivity of social justice can be maddening for you. Yea it doesnt make sense to people who do not read about the culture--where it was and where it is now.
3) Middle eastern students experience microaggressions as well, and theoretically are held back by them, but succeed in the face of this because family culture >>>> microaggressions.
Again intersectionality. The microaggressions affecting middle easterners is NOT the same as that affecting URMs. By saying that all microaggressions experienced by minorities can be treated the same way trivializes the experience. I dont think that was your intent, but thats how it is coming across.
2) Beyond economics, struggles are a very individual thing. You cannot look at a group of individuals of the same SES and claim with any degree of authority at any individual has gone through more or less hardship by the color of their skin alone. There are a million other factors, many of them have or have not been studied. Some have been studied with more fervor (e.g. race) while others have not.
How do you go from acknowledging the differences within groups of color like you do here, but then fail to see how this subverts your third point? Economics and the socials issues really cannot be separated for every group as "easily" as it can for others. It's like you understand this stuff, but dont want to connect the dots.
(e.g. top schools who are able to fill their classes with black kids, use them to demonstrate diversity of the school, and then send into academia where they won't be nearly as effective).
We need diversity in academia. "fill their classes with black kids" yep really filled the class with 10 blacks. I know you're generalizing but I'm honing in on this because your gross generalizations are not true and insincere. The amount of top schools producing URMs is not high and to further assume they only do academia to never work with their communities is also insincere. Also academic institutions have the most resources to do the best research for minority communities.
Programs that prepare poor black students who otherwise wouldn’t have gotten into medical school for medical school. A black/latino/disadvantaged kid applies to your lower tier MD/DO school with a 3.1/30. Accept him conditionally, saying he can attend after going through a program. It could be like an SMP that places a special emphasis on the things URM/disadvantaged kids traditionally miss out on due to culture or economics, like better study strategies, academic counseling, etc… It’s a win for everyone.
These programs already exist and are actually increasing. When you write as though they dont exist it only further allows me to assume how unfamiliar with this system you are. Also remember medical students are some of the most manipulate professional students around, next to lawyers, so when it comes to weeding out applicants I can assure the version of the student that applies doesnt always matriculate as you imagined. Have you ever been on the otherside of an interview? You roll the dice everytime.
We also dance around the issue and use rationalization like, "rich black kids deserve to go to Harvard over their state school because they experience prejudice too," which completely covers up the real issue, which is that the economic standing of blacks in this company directly leads to their under-representation in medicine.
I dont know where you are going with this, but I did not make that claim.
Surprisingly, the measures used to increase minority representation in medicine have not been working
They are working it is just really slow. And that itself should not be a surprise to you. Why you do not want to understand this is beyond me. Slow change should be something you are used to being the "conservative" that you are. You see how cheap that sounds to throw "conservative/liberal" out there so haphazardly.
You're not reading my posts. This whole time I've been arguing that white/poor/rural kids are getting shafted.
I am reading your posts, but it is just that you are unfamiliar with the statistics. Read the AAMC reports. Poor people who apply to medical school get in if they apply smart enough. However as I have been pointing out poor people do not apply to medical school. https://www.aamc.org/newsroom/newsreleases/446400/applicant-and-enrollment-data.html
Again not that many latinos, "half" or otherwise, are applying to medical school so we are really dwindling the needle here. This is irrelevant to the argument at hand. I'd urge you to move away from your canned responses and start thinking about the way medical schools operate.
This absolutely relevant. Adcoms across the country are already dealing with low applicant turn out. In fact they fight for those really good applicants with scholarship money. It is not that the black applicants
I think many rich black kids who might have otherwise gone to mid-tier schools are going to great schools. I think this shrouds the real issues at play and does nothing to solve the problem of having a shortage of black physicians in community hospitals.
The are shortage of black physicians everywhere. You act like there are an abudance of black physicians. last year of the 20k acceptees, ~1500 black kids. I'm not sure where you got this stat of the shortage black community physicians to academic physicians. Is the shortage that severe? Anyway, have you considered that if a URM physician stays in academia that it could be for the resources afforded in academia for research in that community than at the community hospital?