Okay. But the man who gave us popular democracy also was the one who ran on the platform to abolish the Federal bank of the United States.

I want to consider this angle, because if you are true believer of the past, then you ought to know that Democracy happened because Americans wanted to abolish the Fed, which the founders put in place.

So are you with the founders, or are you with Jackson? Let me explain what I mean.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_War

And that even though the Founders were against Democracy, they were quite for a 'Federal Reserve,' which was one of their first acts that they passed in their government.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Bank_of_the_United_States

And that the only reason why that the Federal Bank was dismantled, was because Andrew Jackson was able to turn the US into a popular Democracy via an Uprising.

There is argument that when the US abolished their National Bank, by Jackson forcing a democratic uprising, it led to a depression.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_of_1837

So I am throwing down the gauntlet here, and arguing whether your 'Founding Fathers' are actually 'the real Founding Father,' because Joe American's account of the Founding Fathers is grounded with Patrick Henry, whom was ousted from the Constitutional Convention after the founders turned on the Libertarians.

Also. What really gets me is something like this.

Founding Fathers were very concerned with eradicating the free rider,

People today are 'Cafeteria Conservatives.' They absolutely love the positions that they agree with the Founders on, but then conveniently forget the things that they disagreed with the founders on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_School_%28economics%29

Honestly. Our nation would have survived if we actually understood our own history, but in the end, Alan Bloom was right; we haven't taught our past well.