Kuro's post about RTZ on german dota forum

Much of what he says comes off as jabs at arteezy. He starts off by saying the whole thing is "kindergarten antics." He follows most of hiis compliments with little things suggesting that it was more arteezy being angry at everything than kuroky being in any way aggravating.

Generally I stay out of these kindergarten antics, since I find it unnecessary, but I'd like to air my thoughts just a little bit here.

IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER: Many people are saying that german to english comes off poorly almost all the time and even if it is accurate this time its still just reddit speculation to be taken with ppds entire salt stash at best and completely ignored if you feel like it. on top of this this post does not necessarily represent my views of the whole situation and is just an explanation for the large amount of people that cant see the passive aggressive parts to this or as to why this statement comes off as backhanded i do not claim to know what kurokys intended message was this is simply the all passive aggressiveness i can interpret from this to explain what some people may be seeing that others arent.

Truth be told there's no bad blood between me and Arteezy, he's just a very talented teenager, but a young mind, changes his thoughts about who the bad apple is in the team every few weeks. Well, I was young and emotional at one time as well.

he talks about arteezy being very talented before immediately implying that he was a ragey blamer that cycled through always finding a teammate to blame. He also implies that he has greater knowledge of the situation and that he is better than arteezy in this regard by saying he used to be young and emotional.

Really everything happened very quickly, we lost and tried to find a scapegoat, this time it was my turn. I honestly dont blame him, he's just very emotionally invested in Dota and especially TI, so a knee-jerk reaction like this is no surprise. If you follow his Twitter a bit you notice how emotional he can be, it's pretty much his medium to process his thoughts and daily events/occurrences. This generation...

He then talks about how he was the selected scapegoat implying he didnt actually do anything wrong but that it was just arteezy looking to blame. He then says it wasnt arteezy to blame whilst making this entire statement blaming arteezy, talking about how overly emotional he is then taking a pot shot at this generation...

However, it's not easy being young and "world famous", so I'm asking for a little consideration for his behavior. Add to that he's extremely ambitious, TI is the yearly heart-breaker, so in my opinion it's good to be patient. Arteezy is an alright guy, we were all teenagers once and we didn't always handle difficult situations well.

He then starts complementing arteezy again before moving down to saying how dsitressing ti is then going back to saying arteezy is a teenager that doesnt handle situations well. Kuroky again implies that he is better than that because he is no longer a teenager

My performance was suboptimal in the last few games, Arteezy being energetic as he is (oftentimes angry), has to channel/vent his emotions, typically the teammates are the easiest target... like in your average pub game. And the relation between carry and support you all know as well, it's the most vulnerable. After the second game I told him that I checked the rune and that Storm picked up a convenient Haste rune, which is why he got wound up. I told him to relax, but that typically just makes things worse for people on edge, you lose control and it escalates.

He starts this off by very briefly referencing the fact that he made mistakes in play. He then immediately moves into again saying arteezy vents at teammates who he treats as targets and how he treats hs pro team like a pub team. He says that arteezy got wound up over the hast rune and that he was simply trying to calm him down but that arteezy raged more and lost control because of it.

I think because of me and his resentment towards me, that he somehow managed to fit the puzzle pieces together in his head and came to a conclusion, to each their own. In a few months everything will be back to normal, assuming he does a little reflecting on things. I sincerely wish so for him, because in my opinion he's one of the best Dota 2 players, and the only thing holding him back is himself and his attitude towards the team. Nothing is achieved by accusing people, we won four tournaments in a row, all eyes were on us, our meta game was broken, you win you lose, just the way it goes in every sport. Either you band together and solve the problems, skill is not the problem, as the results have proven thus far... or you completely overreact.

He again implies this is just arteezy veiwing things incorrectly and that kuroky knows the correct situation but that arteezy is just blaming others and needs to reflect on the situaton. He says nothing is achieved by accusing people whilst accusing arteezy of being ragey and blamey. He then further implies that he thinks secret couldve banded together and solve their problems but that arteezy didnt do so and that he completely overreacted.

After our elimination I've tried to discuss things with him for the following 3-4 days, he ignored me and much rather, as he often likes to do, vented on the Internet. I even asked Zai and 1437 to act as an intermediary, but mister Babaev remained stubborn. I think it's a shame, because I actually enjoyed having him, but yeah, like I said I understand why he acts like this.

again kuroky was the voice of reason to the stubborn and angry arteezy. and of course he knows better than arteezy and knows entirely what hes thinking and why he acts like this.

I'm not going to go mix myself further into this business/drama, he's an Internet figure and I dont want to get sucked into the attention vortex surrounding him, I'm simply not the type of person for that. I wish him the best, I hope he snaps to it and talks with me personally, if he did then none of this would've been necessary.

again he implies that hes above this kind of thing and that he doesnt want any drama whilst making this post that depending on interpretation could be looked at as drama.

overall looking at this in the most negative light possible this comes off as a great deal of subtle blame shifting, incredibly condescending and a large amount of backhanded insulting all whilst portraying himself as a very superior person.

CANNOT EMPHASISE ENOUGH THAT THIS IS JUST AN EXPLANATION OF WHY THIS SEEMS LIKE A SALT POST TO MANY AND IT IS NOT SOME DRAMATIC CONDEMNATION OF KURO NOR DO I NECESSARILY THINK THIS IS THE CORRECT INTERPRETATION OF MUCH OF WHAT WAS WRITTEN I AM JUST SAYING THAT THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE OR ARE NOT SEEING IN THIS POST IN RELATION TO THE PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVENESS ACCUSATIONS.

(also dont take me too seriously im just a random redditor)

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