The State of High MMR NA Pubs is Out of Control

13 smurfs for being banned? You are the person this system needs to be in place for. Get help.

Nah, you weren't around for 2013/2014 dota. It was incredibly easy to land in punishment pool even if you genuinely didn't do anything.

Ever hear why they changed the system in the first place? Chuan and SingSing (are the most publicly acknowledged examples) of people being permanently stuck in Punishment because of Infinite reports, party reports counting individually, and the general amount of reports needed to trigger queue ban being much lower then it is today.

The normal player back in 2013/2014 would run the risk of getting queue banned for doing poorly in games. Support mains probably vividly remember getting queue banned really often back in those days because bad performance usually translated into getting mass reported and banned.

I had 13 smurfs back then because there was no such thing as scaling punishment down over time. If you were queue banned 3 times, your account was banned from queue for 2 weeks. 13 or so smurfs back then was actually pretty common. I know actually toxic players from back in the day who had over 50.

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