Labour accuses Tories of fake news over video of Corbyn IRA comments

he has a dogmatically anti-British worldview in general and because of his hard left views

He isn't dogmatically anti-British - if he was he wouldn't have lived in Britain all his life and served the British people in parliament for 35~ years... that's stupid to say that. He's anti-imperialism, and anti-foreign intervention, there's a big and important difference between the two.

If the Norwegians started mounting a totally specious claim for the Shetland Islands starting from Monday, he would be on the Norwegian side.

And what ridiculous basis do you claim this on? Sounds baseless to me.

The British Government met the PIRA from 1972 onwards. Corbyn was an IRA supporter who wanted them to bring about a UI by force against the wishes of Northern Ireland's people.

As someone from NI - who lived through part of the troubles no less - this sort of over generalisation from people who aren't from here infuriates me to no end.

Firstly, you have to understand that Northern Ireland was created against the will of the Irish people, and it was either a choice between the creation of NI or face open war on all fronts with Britain.

Secondly, the Irish people as a whole have always been in support of Irish reunification, it is the mollycoddled minority of unionists in the six counties that have always held that back - hypothetically if Scotland were to vote for independence in the next few years would you support splitting it in two, drawing borders around high concentrations of unionists, and then threatening war of pro-independence folk didn't accept this? Cause thats what happened here.

Thirdly, you need to look at Northern Ireland at the time, and the PIRAs secondary objectives - that being; equal rights for Catholics, the right to vote, the right to adequate housing, the right for equal employment opportunities. None of which Catholics had at the time - we were second class citizens. Even to this day some minor discrepancies exist with equality here.

Fourthly, understand that the PIRA did not start the troubles, they weren't the first to bomb, shoot, maim or kill people here, that honour belongs to loyalist paramilitaries who multiple British governments straight up ignored and on many occasions actually worked with to target and kill people like human rights lawyers or just random civilians - the British government straight up legalised the existence of the UVF, who killed almost 400 people during the Troubles, second only to the PIRA - and who were legitimately the loyalist equivalent to the PIRA.

Now, when you have successive British governments both backing, legalising and working with loyalist paramilitaries engaging in the exact same activities as the PIRA - when (even to this day) you have high ranking Torys meeting with active loyalist paramilitaries see here (active UDA leader Dee Stitt meeting with ex-secretary of state Theresa Villiers a couple years back) where the UDA isn't discussed, where she didn't and doesn't urge them to decommission and cease their illegal activities...

Can you see a pattern of hypocrisy here?

The Torys, and British nationalists will kick up this faux-outrage about Corbyn meeting with the PIRA to rightly push them toward peace, even if he supported them or not - while simultaneously many in the British government deemed loyalist groups engaged in the same activities just fine - even turning a blind eye to their arms imports. It's fucking disgusting - as someone who lived here and on more than one occasion was the victim of sectarian violence, quit it with the fake outrage, during the Troubles those in power in Britain were even more terrorist supporting than Corbyn, as they legalised loyalist terrorist groups and worked with them.

/r/northernireland Thread Parent Link - theguardian.com