Haha! True! If they wouldn't make themselves distinct, everyone would look more or less the same I guess. Now the society knows on whom to direct their hate and contempt. Slow claps :D

I have heard Tavleen Singh and Nitin Sawhney man! Loved them and the genre they represented! Karsh Kale was my favorite back then. Have you heard this song of Sawhney's? I am sure you would have but still !. There is also another wonderful version by Jeff Beck?

I am going to listen to your link asap.

You make good points about these gangs and the Saville phenomenon. Honestly, when these reports were first coming out, one of my thoughts was this that what if this rape culture is much more institutionalized than what the revelations tell us?

Denial?! Damn it. Shit. I am face-palming myself reading this. They might have started their own long term downfall this way. I am yet to see any one of my liberal friends or even international organizations working for the refugees and migrants condemn Cologne and many more crimes which are hidden from the public right now. I was reading the Pegida report in today's news, and seeing the people attending it, old men, intellectual women, simple townsfolk, made me feel this. They are joining it and yet these people and denying and silent, playing the victim card. Shits gonna hit the fan sooner than we can predict.

So when I am out and about, I get treated like a stranger by both groups. Especially now, when they're hyper defensive about their Muslim communities.

This is shitty. I can somewhat relate (love marriage product I am! haha)

I see. My community has a history of fighting against the invaders (mostly Muslim) around the periphery of India. They were either converted or dispersed (that's my line) deeper and deeper into the Indian hinterland. How do you see your family's future? In Europe, and especially faith wise? I am curious, do people holding views similar like yours ever go back to Hinduism or some other belief system including atheism?

I think change will require outside force. There's no internal desire for change, quite the opposite. Most Muslims think that they're on the path to conquest. More births, more numbers, division and confusion amongst non-Muslims ... They see it as divine. Seriously.

So it is true? Man, our world is on such a collision course then. :(

There are people who try and present a "liberal" Islam, but I'm neither hopeful nor warm to such ideas.

Why not?

Believe it or not, I have always felt they might need counseling and therapy. How's the market for that? :P Literally asking tongue in cheek, as I come from the mental health profession.