USSR repræsenterede socialismen og kommunismen igennem mange år. Det var først da grusomhederne blev lidt for synlige og systemet skvattede sammen, at hjemlige socialister og kommunister fik travlt med at tage afstand og bruge "No true Scotsman"-argumentet.

Flot generalisering. Din påstand er at USSR repræsenterede socialismen, og ergo må alle socialister støtte USSR. Anarkister har igennem hele USSR's levetid, bogstavlig talt, kritiseret USSR. Emma Goldmand skriver sin kritik af den Russiske Revolution, før USSR er dannet. I 1945, hvor ingen i den borgerlige presse kritiserer Stalin, bliver han forsat kritiseret af den revolutionære syndikalistiske gruppe IWW..

Kritikken forsætter helt til slutningen af USSR's levetid

Kom udover dine generaliseringer og se at verden har flere nuancer.

Så socialistiske bevægelser har intet at gøre med socialistiske partier? Det er måske kun dig, der bestemmer hvem der kan tage ansvar i forhold til deres ideologi?

Hvordan kan du i samme indlæg anklage mig for at ville 'bestemme' hvem der er socialistiske, og samtidigt selv hårdnakket påstå at "USSR repræsenterede socialismen og kommunismen igennem mange år."?

Jeg tror bare jeg lader en professor tag den her fra. Dine generaliseringer er ude af kontrol.

When the world’s two great propaganda systems agree on some doctrine, it requires some intellectual effort to escape its shackles. One such doctrine is that the society created by Lenin and Trotsky and moulded further by Stalin and his successors has some relation to socialism in some meaningful or historically accurate sense of this concept. In fact, if there is a relation, it is the relation of contradiction.

It is clear enough why both major propaganda systems insist upon this fantasy. Since its origins, the Soviet State has attempted to harness the energies of its own population and oppressed people elsewhere in the service of the men who took advantage of the popular ferment in Russia in 1917 to seize State power. One major ideological weapon employed to this end has been the claim that the State managers are leading their own society and the world towards the socialist ideal; an impossibility, as any socialist — surely any serious Marxist — should have understood at once (many did), and a lie of mammoth proportions as history has revealed since the earliest days of the Bolshevik regime. The taskmasters have attempted to gain legitimacy and support by exploiting the aura of socialist ideals and the respect that is rightly accorded them, to conceal their own ritual practice as they destroyed every vestige of socialism.