Questions about meditation and occult practices

The point about the daydreams was an illustration about visualisation. It is controllable, and I don't see concentrating on one active visualisation to be an issue.

The problem with most of these things is that they are copies of what I've already read. I have no clue how to "return gently" or what it even means to do that. I've read some about how I should "concentrate properly" or "relax properly" and honestly, I have no clue how to do these things or check to see what level I'm at. I've read I'm not supposed to use my "inner narrator" to describe stuff when I'm meditating, and I have no fucking clue how to even go about that, so trying to "return" to whatever i'm concentrating on is impossible. I've read i'm not supposed to actually have active thoughts about whatever Ive chosen as the object, merely observe, and when I sit down and try I can't figure out how to do that. I know it is normal for the mind to wander, and that doesn't actually bother me. It does bother me that I can't tell if I'm even doing it correctly, and I simply think I just don't understand the instructions at all.

And then the instructions start talking about altered conciousnessess and trance and gnosis, and how it is required, and I can't line up my experiences with the vague descriptions that others write... they generally wind up simply saying it is indescribable. I've gotten to the point that I think people are writing this stuff because they believe their stuff is special or they simply don't know. I've been told that during meditation, it is a "different sort of relaxed, it is hard to describe, but you'll know". I doubt that.

And at the end of the day, when I try practicing regularly, I just wind up more stressed and agitated in daily life and dreading sitting even for a minute, and often wind up pissed off afterwards.

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