Should Christians be pluralistic?

I don't think blocking me so I'm unable to respond and defend my view is helping your case.

Your insistence on translating αἰώνιον as everlasting is unfounded.

Actually it's founded on Strong Concordance, NAS Exhaustive Concordance, and Thayer's Greek Lexicon. Where are you getting your translations from?

Your whole contention is based on "I found some people that translate it that way."

And how do you know that your translation is accurate? Aren't you doing the exact same thing that you're accusing me of doing?

This is an inaccurate translation which takes improper liberties with the meaning of the word. It means "of an age" not "everlasting."

Incorrect. Again αἰώνιος or aiónios has the definition of, "agelong, eternal". Not "of an age" no, eternal.

Universalism doesn't contradict the Bible,

Beg to differ. I'll point out one of the contradictions you made in your reply further down when I get to that point.

You're entitled to your interpretation of course, but don't make the mistake of conflating your interpretation of scripture with the scripture itself.

I think you should take your own advice. If everyone is entitled to interpret the Bible any way they please than one could turn, "You shall not lie." Into its ok to lie sometimes.

If you honestly can't see the point of following Christianity if everyone that doesn't follow it doesn't suffer eternal torment, then I think you've missed the point of Christianity entirely.

That's why Christ commanded us to go into all the world and preach the Gospel. It's because men is in danger of death for their sins. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

This gift isn't just given to everyone, there are "terms" and "conditions" to it. First is by the grace of God that we call upon the Lord to save us from our sins, Romans 10:13 For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Then we must repent of our sins, Acts 3:19 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, Then we must believe on Jesus Christ, John 3:16For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. and John 3:18“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

There is a contingency, we must believe and obey the Gospel. Anyone who refuses to do so will be thrown into everlasting fire because they rejected Christ.

Hebrews 10:26For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

If everyone will be saved regardless of if they've repented of their sins or not then you've missed the point of repentance, martyrdom, righteousness, the resurrection of Christ, the command that Jesus gave us to go into all the world and preach the Gospel. If people can still enter into God's kingdom regardless of any of these things then what's the point.

I will publicly note that you didn't answer my question in the last reply. I asked you after you accused me of-

if your sole reason for accepting Christianity is avoidance of hell, such that you cannot see any value in it whatsoever if those outside of Christianity don't suffer for eternity, I find that very sad.

I ask you to specifically point out where I said that. You haven't and thus you're bearing false witness.

People need time to be purged because, although the relationship between man and God has been repaired, sin and unrighteous cannot enter God's presence. Those who have not followed Christ in life and been purified of their sin will turn to him for their hope after death, experiencing his judgement as the refiner’s fire which purges and purifies. When all the sin and evil has been burned away like dross, what emerges will be a pure soul able to enter his presence.

This is where you made that contradiction that I mentioned before.

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment

After we die, we face judgment. There's no second chance, no purging, only death for those who are not saved and life to those who are. There is no hope after death if they rejected Christ in their life time.

I will publicly note that I asked you to give me a specific Bible verse that backed up what you were saying and you haven't done that.

But your grounds are far less firm than you think they are, and there is a strong tradition of universalism within Christianity that is just as valid.

Is that why you blocked my other account? How come when I asked you for scripture to back up your points you didn't provide me any? Why didn't you answer my question about what happens to Satan and his angels?

I think you need to open up your Bible and read it for what it says, not try to morph it into what you want it to say so you can hold on to your sins.

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”

Lastly, just because it's a tradition of men doesn't make it a Biblical truth.

Now I'm heading to bed so if I don't reply to your possible next reply it's because I'm sleeping and I've said all that I wanted to say. Goodnight.

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