Sorry, maybey I did not word this very well I was kind of tired and anxious when I wrote it. I have no problem with people talking about the positive emotional and physical effects they are experiencing at any time after jumping off. That was very helpful for me as well. One week 4 months 2 years whatever it may be. My problem is when people claim they are clean and feeling good when they are in-fact still using some kind of opiate and or a heavy combo of other really addictive drugs. And all I'm saying in respect to that is just be honest about that drug use weather it be kratom or benzos or whatever it suits your fancy. It has happened to me in the past some one on a forum for getting clean says they are feeling great and the withdrawal is over or was really easy and they are sober more or less. Then I find myself at a similar time along the withdrawal trajectory and I started tripping out thinking "what the fuck is wrong with me?". Feeling like I am just a screwed-up and hopeless. Then I would find someone who was not using and they confirmed what I was going through was not some disastrous medical anomaly. So it's just about being honest with what you are taking and why. Like would it be fair to tell people I was clean off of heroin and make it sound like I was clean off of opiates but in reality be taking hydros? And in that process tell them about how easy it was and how great I feel without disclosure of that hydro use? But I agree with what your saying it's just kind of the nature of the thing. Especially being on an anonymous internet forum. I just hope it will help some people to pause and think about what they are posting and why on a forum such as this. Hope things are going well for you, I appreciate your posting here it's been an inspiration for me through this withdrawal.