This is why I bought a couple.

It's not a false claim when people are actively being censored or discriminated against due to blockchain analysis.

Again, so we agree. Blockchain analysis is leading to outside forces censoring transactions, not Bitcoin. Even then, blockchain analysis isn't really censoring anyone (yet), and even when it does it will moreso "catch" people in hindsight as opposed to actually censor a transaction on the Bitcoin network.

I send a transaction on the Bitcoin network, it IS getting to where I sent it and NO ONE can stop it from happening. That is the textbook definition of censorship resistance and I'm not sure why you're even trying to argue otherwise.

So it's censorship resistant in a vacuum, but not in the real world where censorship comes from "outside sources" like people, governments and organizations. Is that what you're saying?

Again, no it's censorship resistant period. Not in a vacuum. It might be impractical or sub-optimal to use due to the public blockchain however it's also really not that hard to buy BTC in cash anonymously at which point BTC is indeed very usable even in a privacy centric setting.

You make lots of assumptions in this statement, but I'll just point out that you can't disrespect something that doesn't have feelings, so perhaps we should focus more on being objective instead of being politically correct.

My point is simply that calling Bitcoin a "surveillance coin" is over the top at best.

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