I don't care about the one or two people that by virtue of outside factors or extreme circumstances make it out, I care about the reality of how humans behave in certain circumstances and what needs to be done outside to produce better behaviours. Your way of looking at the World makes no sense.

First of all it is an insult to the ones who make it to say that it was basically a question of chance. Your argument is that you care about how people tend to behave, my argument was that they COULD change their life if they wanted to. Again you are answering to my 'they could' by a 'they usually don't'. I agree that looking at the best way to reduce those crime stats is intelligent but I disagree that blaming white people for everything is the solution and even though you are not saying that word for word it kind of is your point when you say that black people faced unfairness after slavery and all. But what stops them from finding a job today and turning their lives around? It is easy to find excuses not to advance your life in the right direction but it is harmful.

Showing someone like you you're incorrect is not possible, I've already shown you how you are on your very first comment incorrect, then we're talking about people getting our of being poor and it's still somehow focused on race, thus demonstrating that you're simply fixated on hatred and ignorance. You're not motivated by reason, so you can't have your mind changed by reason.

I'm saying that the black community is responsible for an outrageous amount of murders. Going after them would reduce a large amount of the problem, people do not kill civilians when they are in labour camp paying their debt to society. Whether it is their skin color or an other factor that makes them act that way hardly matters. Excuses are unacceptable. They are 14% of the population and make more than 50% of the murders. Now whether it is their genes or the economical situation of their community doesn't change anything. They're still doing those muders. I'm not talking about reasons or excuses, I'm saying they kill and we should do something about it. 'Yes but...' fuck yes but, they do what I say they do and no excuse should be given. Defending rapist and murderers is disgusting. Your point is that if they were not poor there would be virtually no difference between them and white people in terms of crime rates, my point is that they should take responsibility and deal with their economical issues. I'm stating a fact and you're giving reasons for that fact as if that proves the fact wrong.