Drama in r/anarchism about San Francisco. Should tech workers be brutally murdered? Does disagreeing make you a dirty liberal? Does the target make it okay? " Leninist sucked because they didn't kill the right people"

If it's not direct it's not violent.

Yeah, I mean, I kind of dont like to play too fast and loose with word definitions for my own ideological gain.

It merely likes to pretend it does.

Says who? Have you ever seen a Veterans Day/Memorial Day celebration? Have you seen how much a lot of countries like to memorialize their soldiers and talk of "the ultimate sacrifice", the fetishization of soldiers and government force to enforce it's will?

How dare they consider intentionally starving someone to death for not kneeling to be not meaningfully distinguishable from shooting them for not kneeling.

Many centrists do, they just have moral flexibility on the issue. They would rather you submit by starving you out than slaughtering the whole village, they just want you to submit before everyone starves, which is why they often will impose sanctions on stuff like oil and banking but not wheat, corn, and rice.

Leftists are not in the business of pretending that they aren't violent, as you are.

Again, according to whom? We dirty, dirty centrists rarely pretend we aren't violent, we just wrestle with it's hypocritical and contradictory nature with our beliefs based upon the way "by any means necessary" folks act.

Most leftist perspectives do not consider violence to be intrinsically evil, and they don't pretend otherwise.

Which is why they are dangerous. They lack a moral center and can quickly fly off the rails into the "by any means necessary". Sure, a Centrist may blow up an apartment building, but they've weighed the moral consequences of potentially killing kids, a radical leftist doesn't give a shit how many kids are in there, just so long as they are justified in being right.

That's why people are Centrists, they have the ability to recognize that an amoral application of will upon other people is evil, cruel, and sociopathic. Yeah, we have a wide spectrum, but we have a line. We will kill 10 kids to save 90, but we wont kill all 100 so the next 100 are too scared to argue.

That's the difference between us "Centrists" and you "Leftists", you don't care about creating a society that tries to work for everybody, just for you and the way you want it to. We have morals we have to compromise to commit a lesser evil. To you, everything but your own ideas is evil. It's not us who should be called Centrists, but you, because screw everyone else, its only me in the center of all of this that matters.

I see no difference between you and a psychotic killer.

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