I don't even fit into the demographic I'm describing, I'm just pointing out your shortsightedness in dismissing the Tory voter base as being old and rich.

I also said middle class singles, and I didn't say old and rich... I said old. Fair enough point though but if you look at who votes on the pols (Mori for example) it is mainly these people or people typically of a higher income.

"I don't agree that Labour are totally disastrous but I don't think they're more economically competent than the Tories and it terms of statistics they're probably not. I'm trying to be impartial here by pointing out what the argument from the other side would be. Your argument is hardly a fair assessment of either party, it dismissing huge Labour failings as trivialities and picking up on huge Tory failings as some sort of economic apocalypse."

I'll gladly pick apart some labour economic policies, the shit they pulled with the gold selling was ridiculous to boost up banks for instance. I'm not one sided in this debate but I do have bias like every other human, labours energy policy is also a ridiculous but it can work. I suppose the problem is with my bias is that I didn't do my degree whilst labour were in power, make no mistake I would break there balls just as well if they made stupid economic decisions.

"In the same way you over credit the good things Labour has done and totally dismiss the good things the Tories have done as being failures. There's no doubt in my mind that had the power been reversed you'd be arguing Labour are doing a great job at reducing a huge deficit left by the Tories and I doubt you can honestly look at yourself and dispute that."

Not even slightly, bad economic policy is bad economic policy. Changing the person doing it does nothing for me, as I said I have a bias but when you fuck up you fuck up. If any government were this terrible to the worst of in society and it being economically and morally wrong I would have the exact same opinion. For example I dislike UKIP but it is true that an oversupply of labour does lead to real wages falling, if we have an oversupply of labour is up for debate and if the immigrants themselves produce enough jobs that it negates the effect is also up for debate. Fom the viewpoint of an average person over the short term, it probably wouldn't be a bad economic policy (long term it would be a terrible idea as the more highly skilled people we get the better, although the argument for low skilled work makes it worse for the 'working class').

I'll gladly call any side out on their bullshit, it just so happens the people currently in power are Tories/Lib Dems and you seem to take it as Torie hating because I haven't pointed out labours failings as much, it's because they aren't in power right now, why would I focus on them.