I never understood why people watched Destiny. I've tried watching him a few times, and he's so quiet. Not really the type of personality I like.

Nathanias has only recently started getting larger viewer counts now that he's streaming full time. His viewership started increasing when Winter stopped streaming as much. He often gets more viewers than Winter recently. I always find it funny when Nathanias throws out a viewbot comment about winter, as if Winter could never get any real viewers, and how many people in Nathanias' chat reply saying they watch winter.

Nathanias has struggled with view counts because he wasn't a regular streamer, sometimes taking weeks off at a time. He had a habit of dressing down people in his chat, going off on crazy excessive babyrage rants, to the point that I've had to turn him off a few times because of it. Although he's definitely entertaining when he's not being a dick.

He's starting to realize that controversial statements are getting him viewers, and now that he's a full time streamer instead of a caster, he's starting to learn that he needs subs and donations to lock in his income, and hence he's been evolving his stream to draw in more money and to create a community, which of course fuels his income. If you're going to be a full time streamer, you need to do things to ensure that you will have a stable income.

Winter would often get 4k viewers before this whole bot controversy happened. Whether he really did bot is speculative at best. I didn't analyze him at the time. Twitch cleared him. It's possible he did, and it's possible someone else did. I'm not going to assume that he cheated. He's been sitting at around the 1.5k - 2.5k viewer count for at least the last month. His lower viewership could of course be bot related. More likely though is that the SC2 community is dying down and there are a few more SC2 streamers going live that are stealing some of his thunder, such as Nathanias and Rotti.